A lot of truth in this!

[PeeJ]

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On a similar vein, I heard that it is also not advisable to do military presses behind-the-neck, as it can effectively force the shoulder joint to pull out.

Aren.

Thats interesting, maybe why I only go to parrallel behind the neck because it doesn't feel right with all the clicking. Do you have any articles on this Aren and do you do front barbell military press or stick to dumbbells?


Thanks

[Andrew Roe]

i think the below paralell argument will never be fully answered, but ive always thought taking it on a person by person basis is best. without a doubt certain people will cause knee injury by going below paralell, but alot of these people are suseptable to knee injuries to start with, where as some people find they get the best results below parallel, in my personal experience iv`e always prefered below paralel ( not that my back allows me to do em very often) cos it feels like a partial exercise otherwise. and ive never had any knee problems despite having long limbs which would, you`d have though increase my chances as there is more pressure on the lever of the knee.

[MartinM]

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MartinM,

I wouldn't mind having a read of that, can you post the link etc?

I will endeavour to try and find it, think it was on pub med.

[MartinM]

Hitting a bodypart more than once a week is best becasue.....

Hope that works, found it quicker than i had anticcipated. The crucial line in that abstract is...

'Total skeletal muscle RNA was increased 72 h after the second serial bout of RE. These results indicate that molecular adaptations of skeletal muscle to loading respond in a very short time.'

[finlee]

Good read after the third attempt, first couple were of trying to decipher the mumbo jumbo!

Cheers Martin

[MartinM]

No Probs

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Hitting a bodypart more than once a week is best becasue.....

Hope that works, found it quicker than i had anticcipated. The crucial line in that abstract is...

'Total skeletal muscle RNA was increased 72 h after the second serial bout of RE. These results indicate that molecular adaptations of skeletal muscle to loading respond in a very short time.'

Only problem I have with that study (from the brief detail) is that only 9 subjects were used and they used electrical impulse to simulate weights being lifted. Not really an ideal study.

[James Copping]

Human Performance Laboratory, Ball State University, Muncie, IN 47306, USA.

The aim of this study was to examine the time course activation of select myogenic (MRF4, Myf5, MyoD, myogenin) and metabolic (CD36, CPT1, HKII, and PDK4) genes after an acute bout of resistance (RE) or run (Run) exercise. Six RE subjects [25 +/- 4 yr (mean +/- SD), 74 +/- 14 kg, 1.71 +/- 0.11 m] and six Run subjects (25 +/- 4 yr, 72 +/- 5 kg, 1.81 +/- 0.07 m, 63 +/- 8 ml.kg(-1).min(-1)) were studied. Eight muscle biopsies were taken from the vastus lateralis (RE) and gastrocnemius (Run) before, immediately after, and 1, 2, 4, 8, 12 and 24 h after exercise. RE increased mRNA of MRF4 (3.7- to 4.5-fold 2-4 h post), MyoD (5.8-fold 8 h post), myogenin (2.6- and 3.5-fold 8-12 h post), HKII (3.6- to 10.5-fold 2-12 h post), and PDK4 (14- to 26-fold 2-8 h post). There were no differences in Myf5, CD36, and CPT1 mRNA levels 0-24 h post-RE. Run increased mRNA of MyoD (5.0- to 8.0-fold), HKII (12- to 16-fold), and PDK4 (32- to 52-fold) at 8-12 h postexercise. There were no differences in MRF4, Myf5, myogenin, CD36 and CPT1 mRNA levels 0-24 h post-Run. These data indicate a myogenic and metabolic gene induction with RE and Run exercise. The timing of the gene induction is variable and generally peaks 4-8 h postexercise with all gene expression not significantly different from the preexercise levels by 24 h postexercise. These data provide basic information for the timing of human muscle biopsy samples for gene-expression studies involving exercise.

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Human Performance Laboratory, Ball State University, Muncie, IN 47306, USA.

The aim of this study was to examine the time course activation of select myogenic (MRF4, Myf5, MyoD, myogenin) and metabolic (CD36, CPT1, HKII, and PDK4) genes after an acute bout of resistance (RE) or run (Run) exercise. Six RE subjects [25 +/- 4 yr (mean +/- SD), 74 +/- 14 kg, 1.71 +/- 0.11 m] and six Run subjects (25 +/- 4 yr, 72 +/- 5 kg, 1.81 +/- 0.07 m, 63 +/- 8 ml.kg(-1).min(-1)) were studied. Eight muscle biopsies were taken from the vastus lateralis (RE) and gastrocnemius (Run) before, immediately after, and 1, 2, 4, 8, 12 and 24 h after exercise. RE increased mRNA of MRF4 (3.7- to 4.5-fold 2-4 h post), MyoD (5.8-fold 8 h post), myogenin (2.6- and 3.5-fold 8-12 h post), HKII (3.6- to 10.5-fold 2-12 h post), and PDK4 (14- to 26-fold 2-8 h post). There were no differences in Myf5, CD36, and CPT1 mRNA levels 0-24 h post-RE. Run increased mRNA of MyoD (5.0- to 8.0-fold), HKII (12- to 16-fold), and PDK4 (32- to 52-fold) at 8-12 h postexercise. There were no differences in MRF4, Myf5, myogenin, CD36 and CPT1 mRNA levels 0-24 h post-Run. These data indicate a myogenic and metabolic gene induction with RE and Run exercise. The timing of the gene induction is variable and generally peaks 4-8 h postexercise with all gene expression not significantly different from the preexercise levels by 24 h postexercise. These data provide basic information for the timing of human muscle biopsy samples for gene-expression studies involving exercise.

And?

[surfstak]

Did u see the girl in the red dress.....?