Cant get shoulders to grow!!

[morg]

Hey guys i cant really get my shoulders to grow.
I usually do military press, front raises and side raises.
Any tips or info would be great. My diet is fine btw.

Cheers

[Bison]

How many times a week do you train? What days and what split?

What do you do for chest?

[cheef]

hang clean and push press for overall development
laterals and extra wide grips uprite row for side delts
front press for narrow grip urite row for front
bo laterals for rear

front and rear get alot of work in chest and back so id do somthing like

hang clean and pp 5x5
front press 3x12
wg uprite row 3x12
rear laterals 3x15
laterals 2x15

[morg]

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How many times a week do you train? What days and what split?

What do you do for chest?

Just started new routine this week, i have different exercises depending on what week it is, anway the days of the split are:

Mon: Chest + Biceps
Wed: Legs
Thur: Back + Triceps
Sat: Shoulders

(I have been doing chest + tri and back + bi etc previous to this routine)

[mxd]

Run a cycle of hst imo. It gave me the best gains of any routine I tried. These gains included bringing up several lagging bodyparts at the time ie put some nice caps on my delts

[morg]

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hang clean and push press for overall development
laterals and extra wide grips uprite row for side delts
front press for narrow grip urite row for front
bo laterals for rear

front and rear get alot of work in chest and back so id do somthing like

hang clean and pp 5x5
front press 3x12
wg uprite row 3x12
rear laterals 3x15
laterals 2x15

Cheers dude im not sure what some of those are so i will google them.

As i said on my last post i have made a new routine. Im either gonna do 'Week A' for two/three weeks then switch to 'Week B' or just keep switching every other week, not sure yet. Anyway:

Week A: Shoulder press, Front raises, Side raises on bench, Reverse fly machine

*Never done the last two exercises.

Week B: Front raises superset with Side raises, Machine shoulder press

* Havent done superset with shoulders before

[morg]

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Run a cycle of hst imo. It gave me the best gains of any routine I tried. These gains included bringing up several lagging bodyparts at the time ie put some nice caps on my delts

Yo dude just bookmarked a page on HST, looks good. I will deffo give this a shot in two months.
Would this routine release more growth hormone throughout the week as the squats and deads are spread out?

[Bison]

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hang clean and push press for overall development
laterals and extra wide grips uprite row for side delts
front press for narrow grip urite row for front
bo laterals for rear

front and rear get alot of work in chest and back so id do somthing like

hang clean and pp 5x5
front press 3x12
wg uprite row 3x12
rear laterals 3x15
laterals 2x15

HC2PP are awesome for building mass Upright rows similar are great for building width if done correctly but together? Hmmm I'm not so sure.

Also laterals aswell would be total overkill imho... maybe ok for a couple of weeks as part of a specialization routine but definitely nothing more.

I like HC2PP paired with something like seated Arnolds for building some mass, throw in a couple of sets of laterals and you're good to go. No need for lots of shoulder work as they get hit hard during chest and back.

The hang cleans are tough though so try cycling them with Military Press and Upright Rows**

**during upright rows I use an EZ-Bar, around shoulder width grip and bring the bar up no higher than the nipples and keep the elbows low. I find this hits the side delts hard without stressing the shoulder joint too much.

[stephens_0n]

A great exercise for me is a shoulder press using the smith machine in front of the head.

[Dadonda]

I prefer to do the clean from the ground as I can get a bigger weight up to my shoulders that way. Is there a disadvantage to that? other than it is more tiring because of the ROM.