do you train abs?

**ben 21** · 20-01-2012 11:34 PM

i train everything but abs, i mean i do sometimes but i dont feel like crunches and leg raises do anything for me. i like to train hard and get stuck in to something thats going to make me see stars and feel like im going to throw up, thats when i know im building muscle. but abs are so boring and all that happens is i end up feeling hungry after hitting them and dont rily feel like my body has at all benifited. when i hit the deadlifts or even just keeping my stomach tenced up during a squat i rily feel it, is anybody else like me? and should i be given a good telling off for not isolating my abs?

**SeanC** · 20-01-2012 11:49 PM

No just compounds that hit abs aswell. I dont see the point in isolating them tbh
My brother in law does a 45 minute ab workout every week to get a killer six pack. He can hardly move after it.

**SpiderDan** · 21-01-2012 10:44 AM

If you find ab work boring you arent doing the right exercises. Besides for a lot of people (me included) the abs/obliques/low back is a weak link which should be rectified.

AB wheel
Front squat holds
Hanging leg raises

They're my favourites and can be brutally hard.

There is a reason that the westside barbell people do dedicated ab and lower back work 3-4 times a week on top of the squats and dead lifts because they've realised you need a very strong mid section to lift big weights.

**dope540** · 21-01-2012 12:24 PM

psuedo plank push ups hit my abs pretty hard.

**Dolphinski** · 21-01-2012 12:51 PM

I don't know about anyone else but my abs kill for days after doing about 50 chinups! But no, i don't do specific ab work, standing shoulder presses, squats and chins all seem to do enough damage as it is.

**Hardcorener** · 21-01-2012 04:55 PM

Not more than 5 minutes at the end of my workout

**Zeigler** · 21-01-2012 05:19 PM

IMO the majority of lifters, even those with great technique - cant activate the abs/core 100% on the big lifts, so yes they do blitz it but to have an optimal core, it does need direct training.

I dont mean any kind of crunch or sit up either (except reverse crunches). Training it against rotation, extension etc. Rollouts, fallouts, Kb windmills...to name but a few faves.

**Bison** · 21-01-2012 05:42 PM

I do some core work as part of my warmup before each workout. The only direct core work I do are Renegade Rows at the end of my leg workout, they hurt!

**ben 21** · 21-01-2012 05:56 PM

i see a couple of posts supporting rollout type exersises, sorry to be dumb, z what are fallouts?

**ben 21** · 21-01-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dolphinski

I don't know about anyone else but my abs kill for days after doing about 50 chinups! But no, i don't do specific ab work, standing shoulder presses, squats and chins all seem to do enough damage as it is.

i get that when im doing the bicep version were i have my torso completley strait.