Beyond Failure Training

[GALTONATOR]

I have an article if anyones intersted please email me and i will send you a copy of the pdf file. It focuses on drop sets bascially!

[Tom]

this aint that one from abc is it?

[GALTONATOR]

Its from a guy called Trevor Smith who is a bit of a legend state side. He passed away recently but the rraining style is wortha go

[landyskyline]

I find drop sets are fantastic for when I want to look leaner. they get a real pump to the muscle

[Breakdown]

I think training to failure is massively overrated and unnecessary most of the time.

[Gareth83]

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I think training to failure is massively overrated and unnecessary most of the time.

reason being???

[Nicolas]

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He passed away recently but the [t]raining style is wortha go

I'm sure it's not meant to be, but I find that statement humorously ironic.

[James Copping]

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I think training to failure is massively overrated and unnecessary most of the time.

I agree with this 100%. Overtaxing to the CNS and since you cant do as many sets/as much frequency not as taxing to the muscle as it could be.

[Resurrected]

Training beyond failure was the big thing back in the late 80's-early 90's in all the BB mags (might still be. I wouldn't waste money on them now!).

I can say from my experience that it will most definately lead you to a state of over training. This is unless you are on gear.

Check out this article from Ozzy at ********** CNS Overtraining

For those of you who do not wish to read it, here are the conclusions from the article

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....by training to failure each time you train you are going set your nerve cells into a constant state of inhibition leading you to tax the CNS far to much through the increased out put of electrical impulses. This will lead to rapid overtraining. That leads to time off and bodily and mental states lacking motivation, appetite, etc. It also means that it is not always muscular failure which is occurring; more CNS failure, which means that your muscles are not being worked anyway so stimuli for growth is not being achieved every time you train.

Couple muscular and neuro failure together and what do you get? Poor form and therefore poor training. Poor form leads to injuries and injuries lead to more time off.

So, in conclusion to all this, muscular failure, be it concentric, eccentric or isometric, is not necessary to provide a growth stimulus. What is necessary are good form, continuous training, the build up of fatigue products and good diet and resting patterns. Fibres need sufficient training for microtrauma to be incurred causing the release of regenerative hormones to be released in the cells which leaches into the surrounding area as well as intracellular calcium levels to rise to trigger both growth and destructive processes (destructive to remove such substrates as lactic acid) without over taxation of the nervous system.

I hope this demonstrates that the CNS is a vital part of your training and that by training to failure time and time again you will offset the positive effects of it with the negative effects. Once again I will iterate that I do believe that training to failure is a useful tool for growth stimuli, only not the only tool.

[GALTONATOR]

Maybe max ot is the way to go heavy weights! I would just like to say from personall experiance training to failure is what i have always done as how else would i know if i can get another rep unless i try and maybe get it but maybe i will fail!