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  • Carbs for Lean Muscle Growth - Reece Mander

    The aim, in bodybuilding, and in life, is to get the maximum response for the smallest amount of effort. The same works for carbohydrates and muscle. When do we ingest our carbohydrates so that they help build muscle, as opposed to ingesting them to store as fat?

    First, a quick science lesson.

    ALL carbohydrates eventually end up as glucose in the body. Glucose flying around your system is transported to your cells via the hormone insulin. Any leftover glucose is converted to glycogen in the liver. Anything left after that, is stored as fat.

    Depending on the type of carb ingested, time of the day, what it’s taken with and its nutrient density profile, it will do certain things to your blood sugar levels. Blood sugar is regulated by a very important hormone called Insulin. Insulin, a very powerful hormone which, in our case, can be thought of as a building hormone. It will BUILD muscle and it will BUILD fat given the right conditions.



    The key to building LEAN muscle in relation to carbohydrates and insulin can be simplified as follows.

    • Raise insulin at appropriate times to shunt protein and glucose into the muscles.
    • Reduce the amount of insulin released when stores of glycogen are full.
    • Increase the body’s muscle cells to become more responsive to the insulin released.

    We can do this with Reece’s magic 4 carbohydrate rules. Observe.


    1. Consuming carbohydrates in your post workout shake.

    Carbohydrates not only refuel your cells with glucose via insulin, they help move protein into your muscle. You want to go for simple sugars which don’t take much breaking down. Remember speed here is the key. We want the glucose in the blood ASAP. Natural fruit juice, maltodextrin or dextrose will do the trick nicely. Vitargo is also great as its fast absorbing.


    2. Consuming carbohydrates first thing in the morning.

    First thing in the morning it’s less likely, unless you’re a ‘midnight feaster’, that your carbohydrates will be stored as fat. The liver has less glycogen and there is little glucose for energy. The body will use your ingested carbohydrates to repair the damage from the gym the night before and will give you sustained energy for the next few hours. No spikes in blood sugar, no cravings for rubbish, just clean muscle and a good mood.


    3. Never consume carbohydrates by themselves

    This is especially important, should you cheat and try to eat refined sugars (think white bread, bagels) as we only want to spike insulin post work out. So a good rule is to ALWAYS consume carbohydrates with protein and fat. The protein and fat will slow the increase in blood sugar and mitigate a smaller insulin response. This reduces the likelihood of carbohydrates being stored as fat and creating insulin resistance (my next point), but used instead, for energy and repair. Another tip is to have a full spectrum of macro-nutrients before you train. Carbohydrates protein AND fats pre workout will keep your blood sugar more stable than carbohydrates or protein alone.


    4. Use supplements to help increase cell receptors


    Insulin resistance is now heard almost as often as someone screams ‘lightweight!’ in your gym. Personally I believe it should be called “receptor insensitivity” since it’s the cell that has become insensitive to the insulin, and is rejecting the glucose. When the cell becomes less responsive to insulin, glucose is more likely to get stored as fat. Less repair (think muscle), less energy and more fat for you, the host. There are however, supplements we can take to help improve the sensitivity of your muscle cell receptors, enabling them to uptake the glucose. Alpha Lipoic Acid, Cinnamon, Fenugreek and ginger to name a few.

    So there you have it. 4 rules to help carbohydrate ingestion for lean muscle growth.



    Disclaimer. Carbohydrates are a very touchy subject. While I’m no medic, or scientist I have a decent understanding of the way carbohydrates work inside the body for the purposes of muscle gain. The information I presented is my personal take on carbohydrates for muscle gain.


    References
    Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon
    Favourite Pre-Workout Stack by Charles Poliquin (online article)
    The Sweet Success of Fenuplex by Charles Poliqun (online article)
    Top 6 Supplements for Gaining Muscle Mass by Charles Poliquin (online article)
    The most effective ways to live longer by Jonny Bowden


    Reece Mander BSc DPS, is owner of Reece Mander Fitness www.reecemanderfitness.co.uk based in South London. With the motto of “Train Smart” he is constantly on the look out to get the best possible results in the shortest amount of time. His website has range of different articles from fat loss to general health and can be contacted at reecemander@gmail.com

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    Comments 29 Comments
    1. MiniHulk's Avatar
      *shakes his head*

      Don't think you can gain mass any quicker than I am right now, and I am not getting diabetes while doing it.
    1. Waterfield's Avatar
      Strong references.
    1. MiniHulk's Avatar
      Carbs will cause decent muscle growth but at the cost of your health - steroids are also good for building some monsterous muscles, but I ain't gonna be using them or recommending their use in articles. A lot of diseases can be spawned from too much glucose consumption, be it from table sugar or wheat...
    1. duane's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by Waterfield View Post
      Strong references.
      haha nice one
    1. GummyP's Avatar
      Why would the average gymrat need simple carbs pwo?

      Unless they're doing double sessions in a day, glycogen should fully replenish over the next 24-36 hours. More then likely their 45min session isn't going to deplete their glycogen fully.
    1. MiniHulk's Avatar
      I love anyone who has opened their eyes to the dangers of excessive glucose floating around
    1. MiniHulk's Avatar
      I know MP has everyone's intentions at heart when choosing articles to post, I just hope they have the capacity to see through the fog of conventional training and realise that it can be done just as efficiently without the need for destroying our health. Carbs mean starch to people usually, and there is no reason to include this disastorous food into our diets.

      I may seem like an outcast by saying this to someone, much like a vegan trying to convince carnivores that meat is unhealthy... but with this, there is a real reason to look into health deeper and not just follow suit. I know I am fighting an unwinnable battle, but if I can open just one other person's eyes to the dangers of heavy glucose consumption then my work is done
    1. SquatKing's Avatar
      Theres a lot of carbs I plain dont enjoy

      White Bread
      Pasta
      Potatos (serious, everyone thinks im weird but they are vile)

      Are the main ones, I do like white rice over brown though. Other than that I dont eat much in the way of carbs simply because I dont get enjoyment from them like I do meat, fish and eggs.

      I do enjoy veg though, broccoli is a fave.
    1. GummyP's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by MiniHulk View Post
      a vegan trying to convince carnivores that meat is unhealthy...
      Now thats just crazy talk :O
    1. ReeceMander's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by MiniHulk View Post
      I love anyone who has opened their eyes to the dangers of excessive glucose floating around
      The steps outlined here should reduce amound of excessive glucose . The idea behind the article was to ingest carbs for optimal body composition while trying to gain muscle.
    1. James's Avatar
      The tip about consuming carbs first thing is the morning for body composition has recently been de-mystified, there never was a proper clinical study into the myth in the first place, consuming calories (including carbs) later in the day/evening over morning actually is an asset; especially if practicing intermittent fasting.

      I do agree about eating carbs with a source of fat and protein, finally someone who doesn't recommend splitting fat and carb meals - since they can sit in the blood stream for like 12 hours or so, both carb and fat meals mix anyhow!

      Carbs post workout - G.I. is totally floored as we know (see consuming fat and protein with carbs), and as stated in previous comments glycogen replenishes over the next day anyhow, so for the average gym rat, or the natural am. or pro. that ACTUALLY knows how to train properly carbs aren't even needed - however, I do think that carbs should be included around workouts/post workout en masse for OPTIMAL body composition, not taking health into account.
    1. ReeceMander's Avatar
      Personally, intermittent fasting never worked for me, but each to their own. Not sure i agree that carbs arent needed. I believe to get the best out of your workout (talking about for mass purposes here) and lift the heaviest weights over a period of about an hour, you will perform better with carbs. Saying that, I suppose you can find people to agree both sides of everything. There are many ways to skin a cat.
    1. Martin Brown's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by ReeceMander View Post
      Personally, intermittent fasting never worked for me, but each to their own. Not sure i agree that carbs arent needed. I believe to get the best out of your workout (talking about for mass purposes here) and lift the heaviest weights over a period of about an hour, you will perform better with carbs. Saying that, I suppose you can find people to agree both sides of everything. There are many ways to skin a cat.
      Agreed. No carb diets are pants for performance. Paleo may have been good for people 10,000 years ago but they weren't trying to lift heavy weights and build muscle!
    1. comanight2's Avatar
      Different strokes for different folks as Berardi said...

      I know that carbs have a massive effect on performance from my outdoor stuff..

      Reece did you also write a few articles for Bodybuilding dot com?
    1. James's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by ReeceMander View Post
      Personally, intermittent fasting never worked for me, but each to their own. Not sure i agree that carbs arent needed. I believe to get the best out of your workout (talking about for mass purposes here) and lift the heaviest weights over a period of about an hour, you will perform better with carbs. Saying that, I suppose you can find people to agree both sides of everything. There are many ways to skin a cat.
      I agree also for performance reasons carbs should be included as part of a diet, I use a big whack of carbs on training days to great effect, through personal experience I know that I also have better endurance with carbs in my diet; overall strength isn't effected, however.
    1. hailtotheking's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by Martin Brown View Post
      Paleo may have been good for people 10,000 years ago but they weren't trying to lift heavy weights and build muscle!
      This is something the paleo crowd conveniently gloss over when it comes to sport performance.

      Even Loren Cordain in 'Paleo Diet for Athletes' said that alot of indigenous people on pure paleo-type diets were ok at all round general activities, but were not particularly fast or strong compared to even amateur level athletes. He clearly recommends in his book that for performance athletes carbs are important, both for recovery and performance.

      Another thing that has been pointed out over and over again by folks like Chris Masterjohn (who specilises in looking at indigenous diets) and Anthony Colpo (ex fanatical low carber) is that there are more than a handful of indigenous groups that have pretty much always had high carb (and often relatively low protein) diets, and are just as able and healthy as other indigenous groups.

      Even stalwart paleo low carbers like Richard Nikoley are coming round to seeing that carbs are good for performance, recovery, and body composition after people like Martin Berkhan showed them some sense. Nikoley looks better now and is stronger than than he ever did / was in his low carb days

      Some people on this forum are really becoming irritating trying to ram their zealot anti-carb agenda down peoples throats in a largely unfounded manner. Just because it may work for them, it doesnt apply to every other freakin' person on the planet! Sure, many people could do with a lower carb intake, but that doesnt mean they have to scourge every morsel of sugar or starch from their diet andlive on ketone fumes for the rest of their lives.
    1. James's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by hailtotheking View Post
      This is something the paleo crowd conveniently gloss over when it comes to sport performance.

      Even Loren Cordain in 'Paleo Diet for Athletes' said that alot of indigenous people on pure paleo-type diets were ok at all round general activities, but were not particularly fast or strong compared to even amateur level athletes. He clearly recommends in his book that for performance athletes carbs are important, both for recovery and performance.

      Another thing that has been pointed out over and over again by folks like Chris Masterjohn (who specilises in looking at indigenous diets) and Anthony Colpo (ex fanatical low carber) is that there are more than a handful of indigenous groups that have pretty much always had high carb (and often relatively low protein) diets, and are just as able and healthy as other indigenous groups.

      Even stalwart paleo low carbers like Richard Nikoley are coming round to seeing that carbs are good for performance, recovery, and body composition after people like Martin Berkhan showed them some sense. Nikoley looks better now and is stronger than than he ever did / was in his low carb days

      Some people on this forum are really becoming irritating trying to ram their zealot anti-carb agenda down peoples throats in a largely unfounded manner. Just because it may work for them, it doesnt apply to every other freakin' person on the planet! Sure, many people could do with a lower carb intake, but that doesnt mean they have to scourge every morsel of sugar or starch from their diet and like on ketone for the rest of their lives.
      +1

      As per my signature - "So forget 'carbs vs fat'. It is neolithic agents of disease versus everything else." - Dr. Kurt Harris
    1. MiniHulk's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by hailtotheking View Post
      This is something the paleo crowd conveniently gloss over when it comes to sport performance.

      Even Loren Cordain in 'Paleo Diet for Athletes' said that alot of indigenous people on pure paleo-type diets were ok at all round general activities, but were not particularly fast or strong compared to even amateur level athletes. He clearly recommends in his book that for performance athletes carbs are important, both for recovery and performance.

      Another thing that has been pointed out over and over again by folks like Chris Masterjohn (who specilises in looking at indigenous diets) and Anthony Colpo (ex fanatical low carber) is that there are more than a handful of indigenous groups that have pretty much always had high carb (and often relatively low protein) diets, and are just as able and healthy as other indigenous groups.

      Even stalwart paleo low carbers like Richard Nikoley are coming round to seeing that carbs are good for performance, recovery, and body composition after people like Martin Berkhan showed them some sense. Nikoley looks better now and is stronger than than he ever did / was in his low carb days

      Some people on this forum are really becoming irritating trying to ram their zealot anti-carb agenda down peoples throats in a largely unfounded manner. Just because it may work for them, it doesnt apply to every other freakin' person on the planet! Sure, many people could do with a lower carb intake, but that doesnt mean they have to scourge every morsel of sugar or starch from their diet andlive on ketone fumes for the rest of their lives.
      I believe you are referring to me in your post right? With me, as always - health comes before muscle gain, but luckily a healthier system works better for building lean muscle. For monsterous size, yes - carbs help, and so do steroids.

      What you have to think about is.... The only thing missing from diets that I advocate is carbohydrates in the form of starch - I am not anti-all carbs... I would personally eat A LOT more vegetables, chia, hemp, walnuts, coconut and other sources of decent carbs if my stomach allowed such things. Adding starchy carbs to pack on huge mass is an option, but it isn't going to increase your life expectancy and I am yet to be proved wrong.

      I mean no harm with my ramblings and anti-starch proposals, most people I help are suffering from common diseases (since agriculture come into play) and I have not yet failed.
    1. hailtotheking's Avatar
      Actually MH i wasnt just referring to you dude. There are quite a few people on here that are telling every noobie who comes on the forum to immediately ditch the carbs like their lives depended upon it. Its simply unwarranted and overkill. I'll say it again - not everyone needs to go on low-carb diets, esp. not performance and physique minded people that arent massively obese and / or have some kind of chronic health problem that clearly makes carb tolerence an issue.
    1. Odevans's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by GummyP View Post
      Why would the average gymrat need simple carbs pwo?

      Unless they're doing double sessions in a day, glycogen should fully replenish over the next 24-36 hours. More then likely their 45min session isn't going to deplete their glycogen fully.
      My competition nutrition involves; skittles, a common glucose energy drink, and a common caffeine drink (which I'm replacing with Pulse).

      This combination (hyperglycaemia and being massively alert), gave me the biggest rush that I have ever experienced. I pulled a 270kg deadlift, with room to spare - a 10kg PB, from the week before. I intend to pull 280kg, this Sunday, using the same method. But, this is not something that I would want to do 4 times a week.

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