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  • German Volume Training For Serious Mass

    When trying to increase muscle mass there are few training methods that are proven to work as well as German Volume Training (also known in the world of Strength and Conditioning as the "ten sets method".) Believed to have been founded in Germany in the mid 70's and later popularised by the National Coach of Weightlifting Rolf Feser, it’s now used by strength athletes and bodybuilders the world over. Here we explore how GVT could be used in your workouts to add muscle mass.

    Training Principles:

    Pick 1 Exercise Per Muscle: Essentially the program works by targeting a group of motor units, exposing them to an extensive volume of repeated efforts, specifically, 10 sets of a single exercise. This forces the body to adapt to the huge amount of stress it’s put under by hypertrophying the targeted fibres (put simply, the muscles get bigger and stronger to cope with the stress.) It’s important to choose a large compound movement for each body part (e.g. bench for chest, squat for legs.

    Perform 100 reps: For each one of these exercises, you will be performing 10 sets of 10 reps. Begin with 50% - 60% of your one rep max and aim to perform each rep with strict form. There is no need to train to failure, use forced reps or negatives since German Volume Training is taxing enough on the body.

    Tempo: Since you are performing such long-range movements (such as dips, squats, bench and chin ups) try using the 4-0-2 tempo, this is basically where you lower the weight for 4 seconds and then straight away begin lifting the weight for 2 seconds.
    Rest: Whilst there are many variations of this type of training, experts tend to agree that 60-90 seconds is the perfect amount of time between sets. Any less than 60 seconds and you may find you have to drop the weight since your muscles aren’t being given enough time to recover.

    Incremental Changes: Once you are able to do 10 sets of 10, with strict form, 60-90 seconds of rest and the perfect 4-0-2 tempo, try increasing the weight you lift by 5% and repeat the entire process.

    Since German Volume Training puts such a lot of stress on the body, it’s important that you stick to a strict routine and resist the urge put superset or throw in isolation moves. One of the most popular routines is as follows:

    Day 1: Chest and Back




    Day2: Rest Day


    Day 3: Legs and Abs




    Day 4: Rest Day


    Day 5: Shoulders and Arms


    Day 6: Rest Day


    Day 7: Rest Day



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    Comments 13 Comments
    1. pb75's Avatar
      Anyone done or rate this routine? Seems an awful lot of work in each session, well over 90 minutes?
    1. Hbomb's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by pb75 View Post
      Anyone done or rate this routine? Seems an awful lot of work in each session, well over 90 minutes?

      I haven't done the above routine but i have experimented with GVT in the past. I squatted 3 times a week 10 x 10 starting out at 75% of my 3 Rep max.

      I found the routine so intense i usually would just do the squats and get the hell out of the gym

      well, thats not entirely true, sometimes i threw in some upper body body weight exercises along with the sessions too, chins press ups and would usually do some mobility work pre and post the squatting.

      Here is what i discovered..

      01. After the first few sessions i experienced DOMS to a degree that i had never felt before. it took me 4 -5 days to recover.

      02. this does pass and recovery from the sessions tends to speed up.

      03. My body fat levels dropped by about 4% from 13% to 9%. I was doing other exercise as well though, playing basketball and football 2-3 times a week.

      04. After about 5 weeks i found my energy levels were dropping, motivation lagging (lack of variation in the programme)

      05. I started sleeping loads from about week 3 onwards. it really does stress your body, nervous system etc..

      06. after 8 weeks i took 10 days off and retested my vertical jump. i had added 6 inches to it.

      and that was it... i never did it again. that was about 3 years ago. might do it again this year. not going to lie though. it ain't easy.
    1. pb75's Avatar
      does sound tough, what about size gains?
    1. SpiderDan's Avatar
      Honestly Id like to meet the person who could complete that routine. In my opinion they'd have to be an absolute beast already.

      Why is there four exercises using 10 x 10 per day, when it says pick 1 exercise per muscle?

      100 chins with a 4 second eccentric?

      100 rep squat and 100 rep deadlift in one session?? - someone would have to have a lower back made of iron and no desire to get out of bed for a couple of days.

      More power to anyone who can do it.....but as written its way beyond me.
    1. Hbomb's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by pb75 View Post
      does sound tough, what about size gains?
      well i wasn't doing it to bulk up, i was looking to see could i lower by body fat (wanted to improve my strength per pound of body weight, improve sporting performace) so at the start i was careful about what i ate. didn't go crazy on protein and carbs, just tried to eat sensible.

      Of course after a few weeks i had gained muscle approx 2.5kg and i was eating more anyway. hunger was taking over.

      by the end of the training period i had added 3kg but looked noticeably slimmer. body composition had changed.

      Having said all that i experienced noticeable hypertrophy in my hamstrings and quads. I didn't take any measurements.. how do i know... well my jeans were tighter

      sorry for not having the specifics... if i were to do it again i'd document everything.
    1. fussyjim's Avatar
      Not tried GVT, but I am currently doing Optimized volume training which is a modified (better) version. I love it!
    1. dope540's Avatar
      it does sound something like hte amount of volume that you are currently doing now spider
    1. pb75's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by fussyjim View Post
      Not tried GVT, but I am currently doing Optimized volume training which is a modified (better) version. I love it!
      Whats the routine for that?
    1. Ben Coomber's Avatar
      I've done a fair bit of GVT but my programming would be the same as most other people on the net, poliquin etc - 2 exercises at 10x10, so squat and bench, then 2 exercises at 3x10-15 as accessory to the previous, so bench flys and lunges, done. 3x a week, 4 sets of 10 is too much!
    1. James's Avatar
      i wish I had the recovery for something like this, even if it were just for a few weeks!
    1. JC82's Avatar
      Did anyone else think like me that GVT was supposed to be done supersets? ie bench then row for ten each, ten times? Or I read poliquin's version wrong... Worked for me last summer. Agree with just the two exercises for 10x10 and then accessory if you feel like it, but 200 reps in one session on one body part is asking for trouble!

      Spiderdan - not only the eccentric chins but then 100 (each arm, so that's another 100) dbell rows?! No chance!
    1. SpiderDan's Avatar
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      Originally Posted by JC82 View Post
      Did anyone else think like me that GVT was supposed to be done supersets? ie bench then row for ten each, ten times? Or I read poliquin's version wrong... Worked for me last summer. Agree with just the two exercises for 10x10 and then accessory if you feel like it, but 200 reps in one session on one body part is asking for trouble!

      Spiderdan - not only the eccentric chins but then 100 (each arm, so that's another 100) dbell rows?! No chance!
      I suppose you could use the pink dumbbells??
    1. daveg723's Avatar
      Over training much??
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