Pre-workout nutrition on a low carb diet

**Bison** · 20-02-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth83

Interesting! A teaspon or two's worth a day is probably better than consuming 200g every 3/4 days would you think??

Yep, easy to make your own home made Liver tabs from NZ lambs liver

**Ripped Barbarian** · 20-02-2008 11:17 PM

A little bit before each workout is better than eating all your liver in one go.

It's annoying liver comes in 300g+ frozen packs, it's hard to break bits off, what i am likely to do is juice a load up then put it into little flasks and freeze it up, thaw them out 6 hours before and down in one.

**Gareth83** · 21-02-2008 09:27 AM

you can't get liver fresh can you RC??

All my liver is fresh (as in from the refridgerated section)

**nrage04** · 21-02-2008 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtotheking

Just wanted to put a few ideas down and see what folks think. Nothing really new - more like an amalgamation of what has already been said.

An article by Chris Thib a while back called 'Refined Physique Transformation' suggested this:

In his "Supplementation for Newbies" Article he suggests:

Dr Eric Serrano, a well respected sport nutritionist and retired competetive powerlifter, also recommends taking a similar coctail of aminos before training on a low-carb diet without any carbs, but his formula contains all of the EAA's and NO promoters like arginine.

Mauro DiPasquale is also a fan of using all of the EAA's, glutamine, taurine, arginine, orthinine, and alanine, as well as electrolytes pre-trainng for work capacity, muscle cellular hydration, which in turn increases intra-muscular pressure and is an anabolic signaler.

With regards to the creatine pre-training question, i noticed in DiPasquale's 'Metabolic Diet' book he states:

Two other pre-workout supps i am intrigued by are glycerol and MCT's

From DiPasquale's 'Metabolic Diet':

Also from the aforementioned 'Refined Physique Transformation' Article:

However in a discussion between Cy Wilson and John Berardi in 'The Carbohydrate Roundtable':

With regards to MCT's, i know that a few of you guys are using coconut products pre-workout.

From DiPasquale again:

The thing is, surely the bit about them being protein-sparing and easily useable for energy is a good thing for perfomance? I think *** Erasmus was also a supporter of MCT's for sports performance, but he acknowledged that large doses are needed for effect.

From Berardi in "The F-Word - All You Ever Wanted To Know About Dietary Fats":

and in his 'Lean Eating' articles:

What is other folks experiences with MCT's before training?

Great post HTK!

The Glycerol pre workout on a low carb diet is interesting.

**nrage04** · 21-02-2008 10:10 AM

gotta sprea the rep around sorry! i never rep neither! lol

**Bison** · 21-02-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nrage04

gotta sprea the rep around sorry! i never rep neither! lol

Neg repping crap posts helps to spread the love... as in it counts as if you repped

**hailtotheking** · 24-02-2008 07:23 PM

So how effective do people find coconut pre-workout then? I'm interested in trying it out.

**Ripped Barbarian** · 24-02-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth83

you can't get liver fresh can you RC??

All my liver is fresh (as in from the refridgerated section)

In the supermarket it's not what i'd class as 'fresh' that's why i buy the frozen stuff as that is 'frozen fresh' in NZ, the 'fresh' nz stuff in the refrigerated area has been previously frozen, so in theory you could eat it straight out the pack with a hard stomach but i personally don't trust it, i.e i don't know if it's been accidently left next to sometihng warm and bacteria have developed.
I wouldn't eat actual fresh unfrozen liver as it might have parasite eggs which could seriously mess you up.
You're not meant to refreeze the 'fresh' nz stuff as it's been previously frozen, that's the problem.

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Originally Posted by hailtotheking

So how effective do people find coconut pre-workout then? I'm interested in trying it out.

Excellent, but not as good as raw liver.

I really like using coconut water post workout due to electrolytes, but it's an expensive habbit!

**Duncan** · 24-02-2008 08:38 PM

RC, I didn't know you could buy liver ready-frozen. Which supermarket are you getting it from?

**Ripped Barbarian** · 24-02-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncan

RC, I didn't know you could buy liver ready-frozen. Which supermarket are you getting it from?

Tesco is the only supermarket that i know does liver pre frozen (nz lambs liver at least)
it comes in little green plastic covered 'blocks' of 340g iirc, it's good quality and is pre sliced.

I've eaten it raw after thawing and i wasn't ill, i do have the immune system of zeus mind you.