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    #1391 19-01-2012 11:25 PM
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    Not deserving of a thread of its own but I thought it was amusing! Since this thread is the closest thing I have to a journal, I'll post it here...

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    i dont know why but when i read your posts i want to ditch the lbs of white fish and chicken breasts i eat and go out and hunt my own wild bore and kill it with my bare hands before feasting on the raw flesh.
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    #1392 22-01-2012 09:21 PM
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    This was posted on Mark Sisson's Weekend Link Love blog entry:
    The Carnivore Connection Hypothesis: Revisited
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    The “Carnivore Connection” hypothesizes that, during human evolution, a scarcity of dietary carbohydrate in diets with low plant : animal subsistence ratios led to insulin resistance providing a survival and reproductive advantage with selection of genes for insulin resistance. The selection pressure was relaxed at the beginning of the Agricultural Revolution when large quantities of cereals first entered human diets. The “Carnivore Connection” explains the high prevalence of intrinsic insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes in populations that transition rapidly from traditional diets with a low-glycemic load, to high-carbohydrate, high-glycemic index diets that characterize modern diets. Selection pressure has been relaxed longest in European populations, explaining a lower prevalence of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes, despite recent exposure to famine and food scarcity. Increasing obesity and habitual consumption of high-glycemic-load diets worsens insulin resistance and increases the risk of type 2 diabetes in all populations.
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    The Carnivore Connection argues that a scarcity of carbohydrate, rather than food energy, over the course of human evolution is intimately linked to the population risk of type 2 diabetes. We hypothesize that low glucose intake associated with a low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet during the Ice Ages led to positive selection of intrinsic insulin resistance as a survival and reproductive advantage. Alternate hypotheses, such as the thrifty genotype hypothesis, postulate that total dietary energy selected for insulin resistance, but there is currently no evidence that regular periods of food scarcity occurred prior to the advent of agriculture. Only the Carnivore Connection hypothesis explains the relatively low susceptibility to type 2 diabetes in Europeans versus other population groups. Consistent with the hypothesis, a recent trial found the prevalence of insulin resistance significantly greater in pastoralists compared to agriculturalists on the Asian steppes. Further research is required to determine whether genes associated with insulin resistance and β-cell function vary between recent hunter gatherers and long-standing farming populations. In the interim, protein intake and carbohydrate quality and quantity are relevant to the prevention and management of obesity and type 2 diabetes.
    I have pretty much asked similar questions and made similar observations on this forum - especially when 'high carb' eating Asians are thrown out as dietary 'role-models'!

    I would go further and say that no one is immune - it just happens more quickly (or more slowly) depending on genetic ancestry. The Chinese now seem to be catching up with the US when it comes to obesity and diabetes incidence rates.

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    #1393 08-02-2012 12:03 AM
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    That's why I became 'nuts about nutrition'.
    thats why your called nu! i get it now, nu nutrition ts read between the lines! im guesing im the last to find out about this as well
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    LOL! At the time I came up with that moniker I think I was still in 'pub quiz' mode - we used to have word puzzles like that one among the questions. Have you seen this one?

    WOOD
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    It is supposed to be a name and address....

    John Underwood, Andover, Hants!
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    Again, I just could not resist...to go with this tweet:
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    Just a heads up. Sean Croxton (of Underground Wellness) is hosting a FREE online summit on the subject of the 'Paleo Diet'.

    There will be presentations/interviews over eight days (starting on the 26th February) with many famous names within the 'movement' including those who have a more sceptical take on the diet. You can register here:

    Paleo Summit

    As I said, it states it is FREE and you get some bonus videos when you register - featuring Mark Sisson and Gary Taubes.

    P.S. This is the movie I'm waiting for...
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    thats why your called nu! i get it now, nu nutrition ts read between the lines! im guesing im the last to find out about this as well
    Ahem, you're not quite last, that'll be me
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    Originally Posted by NU_nutrition_TS View Post
    Just a heads up. Sean Croxton (of Underground Wellness) is hosting a FREE online summit on the subject of the 'Paleo Diet'.

    There will be presentations/interviews over eight days (starting on the 26th February) with many famous names within the 'movement' including those who have a more sceptical take on the diet. You can register here:

    Paleo Summit

    As I said, it states it is FREE and you get some bonus videos when you register - featuring Mark Sisson and Gary Taubes.
    I'm looking foreword to this, especially Matt Stones talk. For the life of me I cannot understand what this guy recommends, he basically says everything is ok as long as you eat a shed load of it and you're monitoring your body temperature regularly.
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    #1399 22-02-2012 03:05 PM
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    yo whats up yall!!! (in the voice of Sean croxton lol)

    yea should be a good 8 days of talks, I had UW on BTR lastnight on the night shift....man it makes 12hrs go FAST when your learning about stuff you like!
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    diet is alot like religon. its not a matter of wether your right or wrong, its a matter of what you belive.
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