How carbs and insulin make you fat and/or ill!

**ATZ** · 07-03-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NU_nutrition_TS

Maybe you should reign in the exaggeration and hyperbole?

Check the thread title for a perfect example of the above.

**markam04** · 07-03-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ATZ

Three 1000kcal meals won't be any better or worse than six 500kcal meals.

Well, if you say so

But Nu mentioned 1 meal a day?!?!?!

**NU_nutrition_TS** · 07-03-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by markam04

Interested in your reasons behind eating only 1-2 times a day. Obviously this goes against the accepted wisdom of 5-6 small meals to stop catabolism etc. I'm not criticising you, merely interested in why you do it.

'I did not transition to 1-2 meals per day overnight - it took a long time to break the habit of eating 4-5 meals then down to 3 then down to 1-2. ' Nu Nutrition.

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Originally Posted by ATZ

Mark, meal frequency has no effect on body composition calories and macro-nutrients being the same between differing amounts of meals.

Three 1000kcal meals won't be any better or worse than six 500kcal meals.

Catabolism is overrated / a myth.

One of the rare occasions where ATZ and I are in agreement on a subject! Meal frequency is often a function of habit, belief, social convention, clock watching, etc. rather than physiological need.

However, people on high carb and/or calorie restricted diets often find it 'easier' to split their daily intake up into several, closely spaced meals/snacks to avoid hunger pangs and blood sugar crashes.

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Originally Posted by ATZ

Check the thread title for a perfect example of the above.

It's only a title - were people disappointed because 'Jaws' turned out to be about a shark instead of dentistry?!

**ATZ** · 07-03-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by markam04

Well, if you say so

But Nu mentioned 1 meal a day?!?!?!

Check what the science says. This has been covered on here before but there's research papers detailing no difference between calorie and macro matched meal frequency's. If you only ate 1 meal of 3000kcal it'd have the same effect as my examples above, bigger meals just take longer to digest.

**markam04** · 07-03-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ATZ

Check what the science says. This has been covered on here before but there's research papers detailing no difference between calorie and macro matched meal frequency's. If you only ate 1 meal of 3000kcal it'd have the same effect as my examples above, bigger meals just take longer to digest.

Interesting. So don't bother with pre bedtime nutrition. Hmmm no more cottage cheese, micellar casein, MP Bedtime XS................... I'll miss my cottage cheese

Anyway thanks for the replies.

**NU_nutrition_TS** · 07-03-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by markam04

Well, if you say so

But Nu mentioned 1 meal a day?!?!?!

I've only had one meal today. 400g of beef mince made into four burgers (just a little salt and pepper added) with a sauce made from the fat and juices with a knob of butter, a little double cream and some grated cheese added.

Nutritional breakdown (roughly):
Burgers
1280 kcals, 66.4g protein, 112g fat, 0g carbs.
Sauce (additional ingredients)
252 kcals, 8g protein, 20g fat, 1g carbs.

So totals of 1532 kcals, 74.4g protein, 132g fat and 1g carbs or ~20% of cals as protein and ~80% as fat with negligible carbs.

I may have something later (in which case it will probably top my daily intake up to around the 2000-2200 kcal mark) or have this as an 'under-eating' day. But it will be purely hunger that dictates that not calorie counting!

**markam04** · 07-03-2010 08:01 PM

Quote (I've only had one meal today. 400g of beef mince made into four burgers (just a little salt and pepper added) with a sauce made from the fat and juices with a knob of butter, a little double cream and some grated cheese added.

Nutritional breakdown (roughly):
Burgers
1280 kcals, 66.4g protein, 112g fat, 0g carbs.
Sauce (additional ingredients)
252 kcals, 8g protein, 20g fat, 1g carbs.

No healthy green veg or fruit?

**anabolic** · 07-03-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by markam04

Quote (I've only had one meal today. 400g of beef mince made into four burgers (just a little salt and pepper added) with a sauce made from the fat and juices with a knob of butter, a little double cream and some grated cheese added.

Nutritional breakdown (roughly):
Burgers
1280 kcals, 66.4g protein, 112g fat, 0g carbs.
Sauce (additional ingredients)
252 kcals, 8g protein, 20g fat, 1g carbs.

No healthy green veg or fruit?

**elmo322** · 07-03-2010 09:23 PM

I just had beans on toast with chesse and then bread and butter pudding, tastes so good!

**Ripped Barbarian** · 07-03-2010 09:30 PM

I've had:

-Buckwheat porridge, pecan and hazlenut, wild cherries + cod liver oil, vitamin E and a little tahini for breakfast.

-Aberdeen angus burger (without any sort of bun) with sauerkraut for lunch.

Dinner just had broccoli, potatoes and some white fish and a couple of krispbread.

I'll prob have a can of beer in a minute, and a few supplements before bed.

Balanced eating, it's not high carb or low carb or high protein, prob around 2,000 cals today, some nice physical activity in a forest, fit as a fiddle, healthy and i don't worry too much about my diet.