Seeking nutritionist

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Bedwas; I've got friends that live there and the hills at the back of it are very popular with bikers etc. There's a little shack up one of the hills that does hamburgers etc. I always make a little pilgrimage to it whenever I visit, ha ha ha!

Another post tomorrow incidentally.

Rightio. I never managed to get that far South,lol! My favourite stretch of road was the Llanguring stretch. You may have heard of it?It's just up the road from where I live. My sister also lives up in Bethesda N.Wales, En route I would go via betws y coed....nice twisties ;-) Used to be lethal in the winter however as the place would be littered with Kamikaze phesants!!

Speak to you soon
gaz

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Hi Gareth,
I live in Aberystwyth mate.

Kind regards
Gaz

Ah right, I'm in Barry. Reason I asked was that I was in Cardiff hospital last year with a broken leg and there was a guy there who came off his bike, think he was in a bad way too.

As for seeing a nutritionist I'd stick to a basic diet of meat, fish, eggs, nuts, veg, bit of fruit, dairy etc. Throw in some exercise like you're doing and away you going. Whatever supplements Wotan suggests would be great additions to that basic diet.

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Ah right, I'm in Barry. Reason I asked was that I was in Cardiff hospital last year with a broken leg and there was a guy there who came off his bike, think he was in a bad way too.

As for seeing a nutritionist I'd stick to a basic diet of meat, fish, eggs, nuts, veg, bit of fruit, dairy etc. Throw in some exercise like you're doing and away you going. Whatever supplements Wotan suggests would be great additions to that basic diet.

oh OK. I was sent to Glangwili via helicopter of all things....it was a shame that I wasn't awake as I've always wanted to go up in a helicopter! Under rather different circumstancs however :-)

Anyway, thanks for the nutritional tips, I really appreciate it.
Have a nice weekend,
Gaz

[Wotan]

The weekend looms and the I'm still not finished with the chores! What a life!

Anyway, bikey-boy, here are a few more thoughts!

You will undoubtedly know that vitamin C is good for you, essential in fact. And if you are like most people you will automatically assume that its primary role is that of an anti-oxidant. And like most people you would be completely mistaken if you did.

The primary role of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in the body is that of collagen production. Collagen is (in Ladybird Book terms) what makes stuff like skin and tendons etc. It does this in conjunction with zinc and various other things like amino acids and certain other minerals. That is why it is said that zinc is used for healing. No zinc = no collagen; no collagen = open wounds. Now, we've covered zinc in an earlier post. So let's concentrate on vitamin C and certain things that I personally have observed with it.

The current RDA is about 90mg per day, I think, they keep changing it and it depends where you live. When I first used vitamins in the early 70's I was considered a crank and the RDA for vitamin C was 30mg per day. It might be 90mg nowadays but I don't know and quite frankly couldn't care less.

Let me explain what this RDA truly represents. It is the level at which you do not die from scurvy ... and that's it. I am being genuinely sincere here. No vitamin C and your body starts to fall apart (which is what happens with scurvy) take x amount of vitamin C though and, hey presto, you don't. The RDA is not a recomended amount at all then. Its simply the minimum figure that you should get in order that you don't slack off work and clog up the NHS with your slowly disintegrating body.

Once vitamins had started becoming mainstream there started this scurrilous rumour that if you took more than the ever-changing, geographically indeterminate, RDA you would simply piss it down the loo. This rumour has never been attributed to any specific person or agency or book etc - but I'd say it was a fair bet that whoever did start it worked one of the big pharma companies. The fact is that it was proved, beyond any shadow of a doubt in 1986 (or thereabouts) by Dr Linus Pauling that taking "mega" doses of vitamin C simply pushed us toward an optimum level of intake. It got used for other stuff in other words. We now know that it get used in several hundred different metabolic reactions within the body.

There is also the guff that at high concentrations it becomes a pro-oxidant and should therefore not be used at high concentrations. Let me put the record straight. The body relies on pro-oxidants far more than it relies on anti-oxidants. Without oxygen you snuff it within a minute or two. Pro-oxidants kill the pathogens in your body and keep your arteries open to name but two other things they do. Vitamin C kills cancer cells dead within minutes through its pro-oxidant properties, not its anti-oxidant ones. None of this matters though because the simple fact is that your kidneys clear vitamin C from your bloodstream long before it reaches pro-oxidant levels. You simply couldn't ingest enough of it. Which is why a couple of fizzy vitamin C tablets will not cure lung cancer but instead has to be given intravenously (and for which a patent has been granted).

It will probably come as no surprise to you to learn that I have experimented at length with this substance. Everyone else I knew, at the time, was doing dope, LSD, speed, nicotine and bannana skins. I was taking, at weekends (in case I got the runs - which did actually happen) anything up to 20 grams of vitamin C a day. What did I notice?

The first thing is that at a level of 210mg a day taken in the morning and dissolved in black tea my genetic propensity towards depression disappeared. I stayed happy all day long to put it simply. At 10 grams per day (divided doses) I was approaching euphoria. At 10 grams per day in a single dose my brain went into some sort of "overdrive". Its the only way I can describe it. Everything became very lucid, I "switched on" to use the phrase of the day. The fact is that vitamin C crosses the blood/brain barrier very easily, remains an anti-oxidant if your kidneys aren't asleep, is neuro-protective and calms over-exited neurones apparantly (counters glutamate toxicity for instance). In other words the humble vitamin C molecule is psychologically active!

After doing some large amount (teaspoonfuls) of it I can remember sitting in the The Plough on the Kenton Road in London with half a dozen friends and discussing (quite animatedly) the idea of Time as a Dimension and the true repercussions of time-travel. When I looked up the whole saloon bar was staring, nodding at me and wanting to join in. The only ones that weren't were a small group in the corner that were off their tits because they been dropping mushrooms all day and were hallucinating apparantly.

At the time what impressed me most, though, was the absence of a hangover the next day.

Anyways, this long story is actually by way of a prelude to what is coming next (another day or two). In the meantime get yourself some vitamin C (if you have a delicate stomach look for vitamin C ester, its gentler and stays in the system longer) and take a gram or two a day for a few days. See what happens and report back.

Take care.

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The weekend looms and the I'm still not finished with the chores! What a life!

Anyway, bikey-boy, here are a few more thoughts!

You will undoubtedly know that vitamin C is good for you, essential in fact. And if you are like most people you will automatically assume that its primary role is that of an anti-oxidant. And like most people you would be completely mistaken if you did.

The primary role of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in the body is that of collagen production. Collagen is (in Ladybird Book terms) what makes stuff like skin and tendons etc. It does this in conjunction with zinc and various other things like amino acids and certain other minerals. That is why it is said that zinc is used for healing. No zinc = no collagen; no collagen = open wounds. Now, we've covered zinc in an earlier post. So let's concentrate on vitamin C and certain things that I personally have observed with it.

The current RDA is about 90mg per day, I think, they keep changing it and it depends where you live. When I first used vitamins in the early 70's I was considered a crank and the RDA for vitamin C was 30mg per day. It might be 90mg nowadays but I don't know and quite frankly couldn't care less.

Let me explain what this RDA truly represents. It is the level at which you do not die from scurvy ... and that's it. I am being genuinely sincere here. No vitamin C and your body starts to fall apart (which is what happens with scurvy) take x amount of vitamin C though and, hey presto, you don't. The RDA is not a recomended amount at all then. Its simply the minimum figure that you should get in order that you don't slack off work and clog up the NHS with your slowly disintegrating body.

Once vitamins had started becoming mainstream there started this scurrilous rumour that if you took more than the ever-changing, geographically indeterminate, RDA you would simply piss it down the loo. This rumour has never been attributed to any specific person or agency or book etc - but I'd say it was a fair bet that whoever did start it worked one of the big pharma companies. The fact is that it was proved, beyond any shadow of a doubt in 1986 (or thereabouts) by Dr Linus Pauling that taking "mega" doses of vitamin C simply pushed us toward an optimum level of intake. It got used for other stuff in other words. We now know that it get used in several hundred different metabolic reactions within the body.

There is also the guff that at high concentrations it becomes a pro-oxidant and should therefore not be used at high concentrations. Let me put the record straight. The body relies on pro-oxidants far more than it relies on anti-oxidants. Without oxygen you snuff it within a minute or two. Pro-oxidants kill the pathogens in your body and keep your arteries open to name but two other things they do. Vitamin C kills cancer cells dead within minutes through its pro-oxidant properties, not its anti-oxidant ones. None of this matters though because the simple fact is that your kidneys clear vitamin C from your bloodstream long before it reaches pro-oxidant levels. You simply couldn't ingest enough of it. Which is why a couple of fizzy vitamin C tablets will not cure lung cancer but instead has to be given intravenously (and for which a patent has been granted).

It will probably come as no surprise to you to learn that I have experimented at length with this substance. Everyone else I knew, at the time, was doing dope, LSD, speed, nicotine and bannana skins. I was taking, at weekends (in case I got the runs - which did actually happen) anything up to 20 grams of vitamin C a day. What did I notice?

The first thing is that at a level of 210mg a day taken in the morning and dissolved in black tea my genetic propensity towards depression disappeared. I stayed happy all day long to put it simply. At 10 grams per day (divided doses) I was approaching euphoria. At 10 grams per day in a single dose my brain went into some sort of "overdrive". Its the only way I can describe it. Everything became very lucid, I "switched on" to use the phrase of the day. The fact is that vitamin C crosses the blood/brain barrier very easily, remains an anti-oxidant if your kidneys aren't asleep, is neuro-protective and calms over-exited neurones apparantly (counters glutamate toxicity for instance). In other words the humble vitamin C molecule is psychologically active!

After doing some large amount (teaspoonfuls) of it I can remember sitting in the The Plough on the Kenton Road in London with half a dozen friends and discussing (quite animatedly) the idea of Time as a Dimension and the true repercussions of time-travel. When I looked up the whole saloon bar was staring, nodding at me and wanting to join in. The only ones that weren't were a small group in the corner that were off their tits because they been dropping mushrooms all day and were hallucinating apparantly.

At the time what impressed me most, though, was the absence of a hangover the next day.

Anyways, this long story is actually by way of a prelude to what is coming next (another day or two). In the meantime get yourself some vitamin C (if you have a delicate stomach look for vitamin C ester, its gentler and stays in the system longer) and take a gram or two a day for a few days. See what happens and report back.

Take care.

Hi Wotan,
wow who would have thought that vitamin c could be so potent?! So are you telling me that I will have collagen lips like Angelina Jolie if I start taking this ;-)

In all seriousness though I'm very impressed by what I have read. Your comment about it being psychologically active really peaked my curiosity. Since the accident I feel as if there's a blockage in my mind. There are words that want to come out but I just can't say them. I often gawp during conversations with people and the mind tends to wonder. I find it nigh on impossible having to concentrate on the conversation, it's very strange. My confidence has been shot to pieces in all honesty as my conversational skills have gone completely down the pan! I have lost all of my mates as I have shut them out. I don't want them to see m like this as I have changed, I pretty much feel like a walking zombie in all honesty as I'm also lacking in emotion. Anyway, I also read a lot (funnily enough I was reading an excerpt the other day about time/space duality, the multiverse etc) and it seems like the both of us could talk for hours ;-) The only problem with my reading is that none of it sticks. I've even got to remind myself sometimes how old I am.....that's how bad things have gotten,lol!

Did you ever experience similar difficulties Wotan in regards to conversation, emotions and memory?

Anyway, I'm going down the shops today to get myself a sack of Vitamin C!

Thanks once more for your time.
Kind regards
Gaz

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update:
I have just bought my batch of 1,000 mg Vitamin C. It is combined with Wild Rose Hips (20mg) and Citrus Bioflavonoids (25mg). Excuse my ignorance but will this mixture affect its potency? Should I just buy Vit. C in its purest form?

Kind regards and thanks once more
Gaz

[Wotan]

The bioflavonoids probably wont make it past the blood/brain barrier but the vitamin C will without a problem. The additional organic materials in your tablets will probably increase the potency of the vitamin C in the rest of the body.

Take two a day and give it a week to see if it makes any difference.

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The bioflavonoids probably wont make it past the blood/brain barrier but the vitamin C will without a problem. The additional organic materials in your tablets will probably increase the potency of the vitamin C in the rest of the body.

Take two a day and give it a week to see if it makes any difference.

Thanks Wotan, I'll keep you posted ;-)
All the best
gaz

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Hi Wotan,
as promised here's the update in regards to my taking of vitamin C. Since Saturday I have been taking 2,000 mg per day. Since the accident I do succumb to the odd bout of depression, I have found that I'm not feeling so downhearted as usual, but it is a minimal change. Maybe the tablets are working to this effect? Other than that I can't note any difference. Maybe it is soon yet or maybe I should ud the dosage?

Anyway, thanks once more and I'll look forward to hearing back from you.
Kind regards
gaz

[Wotan]

Okay so the vitamin C is having an effect, albeit a small one. Good.

What about the zinc?
What about the EFT
What about the Bowen Tecnique?

I'm only asking because it seems that you are seeking a magic pill type effect, whereas what I am suggesting is more of a holistic (horrible word) approach. By themselves they might solve one tiny piece of the problem. Together though they work synergistically and the sum of their interactions is greater than their individual effects.

So, you know what you have to do don't you! Do all of them and lets see what happens. From the results we can work out what the next step is going to be.