Caveman diet !!!

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@ben 21: I hope you were being ironic!

Harnessing of fire and cooking happened relatively early in man's evolution - some sources say anything from 0.2 to 1.7 million years ago. These dates easily encompass the palaeolithic eras. So palaeolithic man just as likely ate his meat cooked as raw.

Eggs almost certainly featured among the 'gathered' foods.

Adopting a 'palaeolithic diet' should not be about re-enactment - you don't have to live in a cave, wear skins, eschew all modern conveniences and try to find some woolly mammoths to hunt down and kill with your flint spears!

It should be about using what knowledge we have about the likely food-ways of our ancestors and translating that to the foods we have available today - meat is meat, eggs are eggs and fish are fish. You can even sneak in dairy if you don't have intolerances.

I agree with you that most berries (most 'fruits') that would have been available back then were probably not as palatable as the hybridised ones we are used to today and I tend to theorise that most plant foods would have been rarely eaten and more likely used for their medicinal and other properties.

[ben 21]

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@ben 21: I hope you were being ironic!

Harnessing of fire and cooking happened relatively early in man's evolution - some sources say anything from 0.2 to 1.7 million years ago. These dates easily encompass the palaeolithic eras. So palaeolithic man just as likely ate his meat cooked as raw.

Eggs almost certainly featured among the 'gathered' foods.

Adopting a 'palaeolithic diet' should not be about re-enactment - you don't have to live in a cave, wear skins, eschew all modern conveniences and try to find some woolly mammoths to hunt down and kill with your flint spears!

It should be about using what knowledge we have about the likely food-ways of our ancestors and translating that to the foods we have available today - meat is meat, eggs are eggs and fish are fish. You can even sneak in dairy if you don't have intolerances.

I agree with you that most berries (most 'fruits') that would have been available back then were probably not as palatable as the hybridised ones we are used to today and I tend to theorise that most plant foods would have been rarely eaten and more likely used for their medicinal and other properties.

lol my humor can be very tounge in cheek sometimes, some of that post i was being serious most of it wasnt! i come in peace however. although i do have to admit i diddnt know cavemen had excess to eggs and cooked there meat. i knew they were begining to create fire but diddnt know they cooked meat and things. learn something new everyday on this forum!

[Pkant2002]

I think a caveman diet not Bens diet sounds amazing if like now im starving. But i just cannot imagine what it must cost to buy enough steak to last you a week. Its like £9 a Kg at morrisons atm i guess thats a fair ammount of meat but still pricey.

[Guccci]

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I think a caveman diet not Bens diet sounds amazing if like now im starving. But i just cannot imagine what it must cost to buy enough steak to last you a week. Its like £9 a Kg at morrisons atm i guess thats a fair ammount of meat but still pricey.

Steak, chicken, fish, sausages, mince meat, bacon, ETC
I'd imagine even if money wasnt an issue, most people would opt for a variety of meat rather than sticking to steak every day!
Local butchers/fishmongers usually have daily special offers and supermarkets always have good deals on.
And eggs and veg are pretty cheap!

[Pkant2002]

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Steak, chicken, fish, sausages, mince meat, bacon, ETC
I'd imagine even if money wasnt an issue, most people would opt for a variety of meat rather than sticking to steak every day!
Local butchers/fishmongers usually have daily special offers and supermarkets always have good deals on.
And eggs and veg are pretty cheap!

Yeh i guess so eggs and veg are cheap i got 3kg veg for 3 pound earlier mixed bag god knows what iv acctually got.

I also got 4 pork steaks 1kg mince beef/pork and 2 beef burgers all for about 12 quid. Then got about 800 cleaning products to get rid of this mildew in our bathroom. First product got it clean off, didnt even have to scrub. Trying to clean in between the tiles now, proving difficult doesnt want to come off.

[SeanC]

I would have thought sausages and bacon isnt sticking to the caveman diet. Although you can make a good homemade sausage type thing just suing pork mince and herbs/spices etc. Im almost tempted to try it myself but i think the first few weeks of no carb would be hell

Great image of a caveman sitting down for a full english breaky though.

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I would have thought sausages and bacon isnt sticking to the caveman diet. Although you can make a good homemade sausage type thing just suing pork mince and herbs/spices etc. Im almost tempted to try it myself but i think the first few weeks of no carb would be hell

Great image of a caveman sitting down for a full english breaky though.

Again, it's not about re-enactment. A good quality sausage can still be ~85% pork - it's still mainly meat (or at least animal-derived ingredients!). Bacon is just a bit of a pig that has been sliced and cured. As you observe, you can make your own 100% pork sausage and many cure their own bacon too.

Incidentally, as well as harnessing fire and probably cooking food pretty early on in human development, man also probably used basic seasoning early on too. Salt was probably obtained wherever salt-water had evaporated in the sun. Even animals seek out natural 'salt-licks' in their environment.

I also theorise that this is how some of the plant matter available may have been used. The active ingredient in pepper is piperine, which is the plant's natural insecticide. It could be feasible that, via observation, man saw that insects avoided feeding on certain plants and maybe these plants were applied to meat that was not going to be eaten immediately in order to keep insects off it. Then they may have found the peppery taste it left on the meat appealing and that's how certain seasonings were discovered!

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some of my paleo meals...

The Meatza
1kg mince
300g cheese (half topping half in meat base)
10 tomatoes (half for homemade sauce)
5mushrooms
3 sticks celery
1 egg to bind meat
Various herbs & spices

Calories : lots
Carbs : minimal
Fat: fairly lots!!
Protein: enough!

See how scientific that macro breakdown was

Pre baked base


Done:


steak & mushroom omelette

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500g lamb and grilled veg kebabs


Big steaks with potobello mushrooms grilled with cheese


my breakfast after a nightshift...good old scrambled egg with sage&basil(buttery!) and bacon(14slices!)


my lunch at work one day 350g chicken and lots of veg drowned in EVOO

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some awesome rareness


the wee man wanted to make cakes tonight, so while the mrs was helping him i tackled my version (no wheat,gluten sugar or anyother nastys!)

4x vanilla whey scoops
4 whole eggs
50g desiccated coconut
35g butter
a little water

melt butter and combine all in a mixing bowl, pour mixture into a springform and bake untill fluffy and desired level or brownness

mrs didnt like it as its not a very sweet cake, but to me it was spot on, the whey sweetens it enough if your not used to a high sugar diet you adjust fine to low sweetness stuff.



so aye, this is pretty much what i eat (bar the odd bit fish here and there - not a huge fish fan if im honest hence hammering the fish oil supps lol!!)