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    Am i right in think while on the Keto diet, that its a cycle process? ie. 5 days NO Carbs followed by a cheat day, then back to No carbs?

    I read a few different articles, but they are a few years old, are there any up to date articles on the Keto diet?
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    Pure keto isnt a cyle process.

    These are some good links, but be prepaired for some hardcore brainstorming to understand it fully:

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    Thank you.

    Also, on IF during this Keto diet... i guess thats going to be too extreme? ie. going 16+ hours on no calories, while having zero carbs?
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    Ok so it sounds like you are looking at doing what I am currently running in terms of diet - I do IF and my eating window is from 12noon - 8pm at night, no issues here.

    I usually have two meals, lunch and dinner, and all low carb high fat. Normally Ill eat a 6 egg omellete for lunch with some grated cheese, mushrooms and red onions for Lunch, then the same again with 500-750g steak fried in butter for dinner.

    Every two weeks im having a high carb, low fat refeed where I eat 10% OVER my maintenance calories to jack up leptin and help to reset my metabolism / balance out hormones - dieting hard for too long is counter productive.
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    Ok, thanks for that, wasn't sure on the IF as well as the Keto diet, so that, clears that up.

    My eating window is 2:30pm - 10:30pm, as i work nights.

    At the minute im having about 100g of carbs or less with 240g of salmon and have been doing this for nearly 2 weeks now, so am trying to get my carbs as late in my eating window as possible, as i was finding it really hard to work through the night on no carbs.

    So that is my worry, feeling crap and not having any energy at work, which i sort of need, as it can be physical.

    So shall i stop counting calories? And just eat until im satisfied (HF and Protein) within my eating window?
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    TO be honest I would only track calories if your fat loss is tailing off - Occasionally I do track my calories and check my macros but if I eat as described above I find its almost perfect keto macros and my energy/recovery arent affected, and I can still lift heavy (in fact im slowly getting STRONGER despite the calorie deficit).

    I dont schedule in carb refeeds, I go by how I feel - I did fine for a long time without ever refeeding, my body is fat adapted and deals with Fat much better than carbs as an energy source - however it took months of eating LCHF to get to this state. Carb refeeds are only done occasionally to jack up leptin - usually the tell tale signs for me are a complete lack of fat loss for 3weeks or more, and a drop in my strength. Carb refeed fixes all of this and I often come back stronger afterwards
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    Sorry for the late reply, but thats for your advice Luke.

    The more i read about it, the more i want to give it ago.

    Im slowly dropping my carbs everyday, down to about 40g of carbs now, eat them just before i go to work, so i have a little energy.

    Im also slowly getting used to the low carbs now, and am starting to get over my hunger pains.

    The only problem i have, is every now and again, my body feels really tired, and i feel lethargic.
    But i guess thats part of getting used to the low carbs.

    I have not tried the keto yet, like i say i am dropping my carbs everyday, and probably on my next day off is when i will start the keto.

    The last couple of days i have fasted for about 20 hours due to my eating window, plus the extra sleep i have been getting

    Also have not really noticed any significant strength loss while working out.
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    Sounds like you may be going through the "carb flu" - if you are coming off the back of a normal carb heavy diet to low carb eating, some people feel a bit lethargic and sometimes suffer from mental "fuzziness" for a few days whilst the body adapts to low carb eating and switching to fat metabolism.

    I dont get these symptoms any longer when getting back into ketosis but some people suffer from it - note that this feeling will pass within a week or so and you will feel great afterwards, you have constant energy and no longer suffer from the massive swings in blood sugar levels with low carb. I find a mental clarity that I cannot achieve when eating high carb, its a wonderful way to live, and I dont suffer in the gym but this may be due to the fact ive been low carb for over a year now.
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    Forgot to add - it takes a good few weeks and sometimes months for some to become fully fat adapted - so if I where you, I wouldnt have a carb refeed for a month or two, or indeed when your performance in the gym and fat loss stalls. This will give your body the chance to become a fat burner in lieu of just being a carb burner.
    "How else are we to emerge victorious unless we put in the proper sacrifice?" - Alan Aragon
    My Training Journal | 2014 Cut| Start of Candito PL Cycle|Start of Periodised Fat loss protocol
    All time PBs: Squat - 190 kgs, Bench Press - 135kgs, OHP - 75kgs, BOR - 130kgs, Deadlift - 230kgs

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