Oats and stomach ache.

[Billy the Fish]

Since I started bulking again (about 4 weeks ago) I've been getting awful stomach ache (and the accasional loose motion ), I didn't know what it was at first and put it down to the amount of calories I was suddenly taking in compared with the cut. But, after all this time, I've decided it's the oats. I have these ground down, in a shake with whey, sometimes up to 100g, twice a day. Now, I have always had these when bulking so its nothing new, but I normally use Quaker oats, now I use any old 'cheaper' option and I'm clutching at straws by thinking this may be a factor ?? I'm sure I've heard in the past that uncooked oats can have this effect... any thoughts ? I've now cut down the amount a fair bit to see if this helps.

[NU_nutrition_TS]

Almost certainly it is consuming raw oats that is having this effect...sounds like the first stirrings of a gluten intolerance. Gluten is an insoluble protein in grains inc. oats that makes it go all 'gluey' when cooked. This is bad news...at the very least it will result in poor absorption of nutrients! Like most intolerances or allergies to proteins like gluten, you can get away scot free for months or even years, but eventually the reaction takes you by surprise!

To know for sure you would have to eliminate them from your diet and see if the symptoms subside, then - without changing anything else - reintroduce them to your diet and see if the symptoms return! Another option is to see if you can get an allergy test done!

[Billy the Fish]

Best bloody not be the case ! Do you think it will be ok if they were cooked ? Is the fact that they are raw the problem ??

If I can't have these whilst at work I'm screwed...

[NU_nutrition_TS]

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Best bloody not be the case ! Do you think it will be ok if they were cooked ? Is the fact that they are raw the problem ??

If I can't have these whilst at work I'm screwed...

That's a third option...only eat your oats cooked from now on and see whether the symptoms ease. If they do, all well and good. If they don't...you may well be on the way to a long-term allergy, as once you are sensitized to gluten [and/or gliadin, another glycoprotein in grains], you're screwed when it comes to the consumption of grains - raw or cooked!

[NU_nutrition_TS]

Billy...check this out and see if it rings any bells:

http://www.biohealthinfo.com/html/re...ive/bread.html

[Billy the Fish]

Thanks for that link, only just realised you posted it up. Had a read and tbh I don't think this is the answer, nothing really rings true (which I'm glad about) !! I've not touched any Oats for a few days now and I've not had any problems since, I will now try them cooked tomorrow and for the next couple of days, then try them uncooked again in a shake and see what happens !!

[Karlos02]

i know this is somewhat off topic bill, but you grind your own oats right? where did you get this...grinding device from?

[NU_nutrition_TS]

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Thanks for that link, only just realised you posted it up. Had a read and tbh I don't think this is the answer, nothing really rings true (which I'm glad about) !! I've not touched any Oats for a few days now and I've not had any problems since, I will now try them cooked tomorrow and for the next couple of days, then try them uncooked again in a shake and see what happens !!

This unfortunate effect of grains can be suffered by most of us to some greater or lesser degree. Total gluten intolerance/coeliac disease is just the final clinical manifestation of it. I find it interesting that your symptoms abated after discontinuing the use of oats. It will be very interesting to see if the symptoms return [or not!] when you start eating them again...either cooked [first] or uncooked. Please post and let us know! And good luck!

[Billy the Fish]

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i know this is somewhat off topic bill, but you grind your own oats right? where did you get this...grinding device from?

Grinding device ??

It's just a normal blender bud !! I'm on my third one in 2 years mind as my last one started to melt after grinding up 2 kilos (my stupidity I know) !!

[Billy the Fish]

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This unfortunate effect of grains can be suffered by most of us to some greater or lesser degree. Total gluten intolerance/coeliac disease is just the final clinical manifestation of it. I find it interesting that your symptoms abated after discontinuing the use of oats. It will be very interesting to see if the symptoms return [or not!] when you start eating them again...either cooked [first] or uncooked. Please post and let us know! And good luck!

Well justa quick update already, had 100g cooked this morning, no ill effects and won't get any now, from that at least, as it does tend to affect me soon after (Like an hour at most) !!