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    Any see Truth about food, thursday night I think it was, they were saying eating dairy products sped up and aided the extraction of fat in your diet due to the calcium content...

    Here's whats on beeb site: Can dairy help you absorb less fat?
    In a study conducted in Denmark it has been observed that the more calcium you include in your diet the less body fat you will have and the less you will weigh.

    Can this really be true? Isn’t cheese the enemy of every conscientious dieter? Perhaps not.

    We took the Truth about Food team to Denmark to meet the scientists behind the study to see if it really worked.

    According to the science, compared to a low-calcium intake a high calcium intake increases the excretion of fat in the faeces. This means the more dairy calcium you include in your diet the less fat will be absorbed by the digestive system.


    "a high calcium intake increases the excretion of fat in the faeces"

    In our study we tested our group on both diets. Week one was a diet high in calcium (2000mg) and week two a low calcium diet (500mg). Crucially, both diets had an identical calorific content and were calculated to have the same fat content.

    Amazingly on the high dairy calcium diet twice the percentage of fat our subjects ate came out in their stools to when they were on the low calcium diet.

    So, when you eat dairy products not all their calories count- great news for cheese lovers, although not an excuse to start the docelatte diet, high fat diets can still lead to obesity.

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    The test was conducted by Professor Arne Astrup (and two of his research students – Nathalie Bendsen and Anne-Louise Hother Nielsen), head of Human Nutrition Department, Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Copenhagen, Denmark.
    Can dairy help you absorb less fat?
    In a study conducted in Denmark it has been observed that the more calcium you include in your diet the less body fat you will have and the less you will weigh.

    Can this really be true? Isn’t cheese the enemy of every conscientious dieter? Perhaps not.

    We took the Truth about Food team to Denmark to meet the scientists behind the study to see if it really worked.

    According to the science, compared to a low-calcium intake a high calcium intake increases the excretion of fat in the faeces. This means the more dairy calcium you include in your diet the less fat will be absorbed by the digestive system.


    "a high calcium intake increases the excretion of fat in the faeces"

    In our study we tested our group on both diets. Week one was a diet high in calcium (2000mg) and week two a low calcium diet (500mg). Crucially, both diets had an identical calorific content and were calculated to have the same fat content.

    Amazingly on the high dairy calcium diet twice the percentage of fat our subjects ate came out in their stools to when they were on the low calcium diet.

    So, when you eat dairy products not all their calories count- great news for cheese lovers, although not an excuse to start the docelatte diet, high fat diets can still lead to obesity.

    Take a look at some Takeaway Tips on how to be slim.

    The test was conducted by Professor Arne Astrup (and two of his research students – Nathalie Bendsen and Anne-Louise Hother Nielsen), head of Human Nutrition Department, Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Copenhagen, Denmark.


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    I saw that- the visual demonstration of the difference between high and low dairy diets compared to fat content of poo was supprising.
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    What it said was that diary foods inhibited absorption of fat in the body, leading it to be wasted. As opposed to 'speed up the extraction' of fat. However this does not mean a high dairy diet is a good idea.
    Can everyone stop thinking so much.please?
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    Ahem! From personal experience I can attest that this is probably true!

    Actually there is a complimentary side to this finding...in another trial it was found that higher fat consumption increases calcium absorption. This is particularly important for menopausal and post-menopausal women who often become osteoporotic due to poor calcium absorption. Another reason for women to think twice about following a low-fat diet!
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    So on a cutting phase, would it be sensible to include more milk for instance in the diet. So instead of using water in the protein shakes use milk etc???
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    You could always try it and see. But if you do, don't use skimmed or semi-skimmed milk!

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    So on a cutting phase, would it be sensible to include more milk for instance in the diet. So instead of using water in the protein shakes use milk etc???
    Not unless your energy requirements allow it.

    In the test they used full fat diary products and assumed it was the calcium that interfered with fat absorption. There is also CLA in diary foods, possibly this plays a bigger role than calcium with regards inhibiting fat absorption. Certainly many a bodybuilder beleive this to be true. Or possibly the combination of calcium+CLA? you could try supplementing with extra calcium+CLA to acheive the same thing. The test certainly does not make you want to add full fat milk, cheese or other dairies to your diet.
    Can everyone stop thinking so much.please?
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    Or possibly the combination of calcium+CLA? you could try supplementing with extra calcium+CLA to acheive the same thing.
    This sounds interesting, I will look into this more later tonight to see if there is benefit in adding / increasing these in the diet when cutting. Thanks nrage.
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    So on a cutting phase, would it be sensible to include more milk for instance in the diet. So instead of using water in the protein shakes use milk etc???

    you would still need to account for the calories in the milk

    so water would win on reducing calories but milk "may" be better, obviously you'd need to reduce the calories elsewhere
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