Cutting start pics, any good?

**MikeK** · 08-01-2008 02:33 PM

I think its because I took up a routine and hardly saw gains when I first started training. With hindsight, I think it may have been down to diet.

As soon as I have cut down I will be on the 5x5 (I think) for some decent strength and size gains for a while

**Gareth83** · 08-01-2008 02:53 PM

and stick to the parameter the programme advises to.

I remember you asking recently can you add assistance work at the end etc. etc.

Programmes are designed to be followed not amended because you think it needs extra.

Train, eat and rest right and you will grow.

Ollie · 08-01-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

No, this is how many I had before the gym!

Not in one meal I hope

**Gareth83** · 08-01-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ollie

Not in one meal I hope

nope, from the other thread he had:

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Today I have had (training day diet):

9:00 - 30g whey, 20ml olive oil

10:00 - 3 eggs, 1 toast (I know!)

12:30 - wholemeal chick sarnie, banana

4:00 - 30g whey, 45g palatinose

6:30 (a bit too late) - Chicken, veg

8:00 - 50g cashews and almonds

When I go to bed: bedtime extreme, 10ml olive oil

what I've highlighted in red I'm assuming is his pre-workout meal!

**MikeK** · 08-01-2008 11:56 PM

Yeah, whats wrong with that? Around 50g carbs?

**Gareth83** · 09-01-2008 10:35 AM

nothing wrong with it, but you said you had 1000cals before you trained.

Not all of those 1000 really count towards the session though, I think that's what he was getting at