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**CosmicFish** · 23-02-2007 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by meathead1987

Fish oil is aweesome for general health aswell as bodybuilding. IMO everyone in the country should use it.

Agreed. Even my 3-year-old takes a kiddy version of it.

Ollie · 23-02-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by simon m

At 18, you don't need those supplements, a good whey protein 4 times a day will help you grow, subject to your eating and training being good.

You'll read a load of guff and have people pushing various supplements, but you don't need them, but what you do need is protein as this builds muscle.

Best of luck

Simon

REAL food over shakes though. Equally it's misleading to say "protein builds muscle". Yes, it's essential, but so are fat and carbohydrates.

Moreover, the guy wants to lose fat before building muscle. You sure you're 5'9 dude? You look pretty thin for your weight if that's the case?

**CoN** · 23-02-2007 03:45 PM

haha..

i will get my girl to measure me.. i havent the slightest in my height.. lol

I will continue to use Fish Oils but once my Sesamin runs out ( 30 day supply ) that will be done

Fish oil has also helped my dry skin i think,

I just need to get my diet nailed as i am still confused about carbs and protein etc..

i eat mostly low gi carbs, wholemeal pasta, grainy wholemeal bread , oats, patotoes at dinner

fats i have my Omega 3 tabs , eat fish once a week and occasional peanut butter

protein have chicken / turkey for lunch everyday, along with my shakes

my training is changin slightly, as i dont know whether i am better going a FB routine and P/P/L

simon m · 23-02-2007 03:54 PM

Fish oil, if you find it helpfull take by all means, but whey protein in addition to a good diet (as I posted earlier) at your age with help you grow more than any supplement.

Mixed with water it is low in cals and will make you bigger.

People will disagree with me, but in the old days we didn't have all these fancy supplements but grew by having a high protein intake. It works and it's relatively cheap.

Simon

simon m · 23-02-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ollie

REAL food over shakes though. Equally it's misleading to say "protein builds muscle". Yes, it's essential, but so are fat and carbohydrates.

Moreover, the guy wants to lose fat before building muscle. You sure you're 5'9 dude? You look pretty thin for your weight if that's the case?

Ollie

A good diet is essential and additional protein intake by way of shakes will not add fat, but will build mucle - try it for a month and you'll get some better stats I'm sure.

**CoN** · 23-02-2007 03:59 PM

i will possibly add another shake..

cheers for everyones comments and points

Ollie · 23-02-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by simon m

Ollie

A good diet is essential and additional protein intake by way of shakes will not add fat, but will build mucle - try it for a month and you'll get some better stats I'm sure.

You reckon if I replaced my protein intake from whole foods with whey I would build muscle without adding fat??? In that case why eat whole foods at all?!

simon m · 26-02-2007 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ollie

You reckon if I replaced my protein intake from whole foods with whey I would build muscle without adding fat??? In that case why eat whole foods at all?!

Ollie

Stop being obtuse. I said that protein shakes in addition to a good diet will help you grow.

**stronglikewood** · 02-03-2007 11:23 AM

Keep the fish oil up. As a health supp it is an essential. Plenty of studies on the benefits to your whole health, not just for BB reasons. I recomend going over to T-nation or googling "t-nation" and "fish oil". there was agreat article on the many benefits of supplementing with fish oil. I still don't yet but really think I should start. I'm not a supp junkie by any means, as I think most are overated and unecessary but I think i'm missing out by not using fish oil.