Myprotein saved my life!

[Gareth83]

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Now, you drink enough water. You take your vitamins and you obtain enough minerals. All good stuff.

You have probably got the protein essentials correct. You eat first class protein, ie you get all the amino acids. And probably in fairly generous quantities. No problem there then.

You seem to have the EFAs sorted out too. You take krill oil, or similar, and miss out on rancidified polyunsaturates. Hopefully you also pass over the hydrogenated fats too. No problem there either.

That leaves carbs.

I bet you are missing out on some of the eight essential polysaccharides.

These are complex sugars that get bound with cell-wall proteins and enable effective inter-cellular communication. Its how the immune system knows which cells to attack (bacteria, cancer etc) and which to leave alone. Without these sugars you age quicker, die quicker, and live at less than optimum levels. Chronic fatigue is one symptom of a lack of these substances.

Two things spring to mind.

One, take Ambrosine. Its a powder made of all eight essential sugars. From these the body can manufacture all the others it needs.

Could you elaborate on the Ambrosine please Wotan, can't seem to find anything anywhere.

Two, to help things along you can also add rice bran (NOW foods section) oat bran and aloe vera powder (or liquid etc) to your diet. These also contain these sugars (or their compounded derivatives).

Full effects will take about a month or so to show up full effects. You can also experiment with various mushroom powders but some people find these not so good and not without side-effects. Its probably better to allow the body to make what it needs.

The second suggestion involves supporting the adrenal glands themselves.

One. You can take a glandular extract. Preferably one from New Zealand (BSE free etc). This will help.

Two. Adrenal fatigue is caused by, or causes excess cortisol. This is a very destructive hormone once it goes beyond certain limits or situations. Its fine to secrete cortisol when the house is on fire - it makes you jump out the window. Its not so good if you secrete it at work every time the telelphone rings. You end up "living on your nerves". Eventually you burn out.

A lot of things can cause this incidentally, not just stress at work or home but also viral infections for instance.

The answer here is to take DHEA to knock out the cortisol and allow your system to re-adjust itself. 50mg of DHEA is a pretty safe dose. Volunteers have taken 1600 mg a day without ill effect. DHEA is the body's own counter-cortisol hormone. I did write about last year (ish) in some thread regarding testosterone production and aging. See if you can find it.

Try these and see if they make a difference. Hope they do.

Welcome back to the land of the living incidentally.

Cheers

[Gareth83]

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[Wotan]

Sorry Gareth, well sorry everyone recently actually. I'm working pretty bad shifts at the moment, next door are renovating their house and the noise starts at half seven in the morning and generally finishes at ten at night. So, no sleep for the last month!

Add that to the fact that I got knocked off my bike last week (some fat old biddy reversed into me in a supermarket car-park) and my shoulder is still black and blue you can see why my, er, normal razor-like intellect (ahem, koff koff) is a bit frayed round the edges recently.

Ok Gareth, you can make this stuff up yourself but by all accounts its a bit of a fag. So i just went out and bought some off Ebay. Its actually called "Ambrotose" (Ambrosia was the food of the Gods in ancient Greek mythology). My stuff came in a 150 gram tub and lasted about six months because you do not need to take it all the time really.

A cheaper route, though much less thorough is to use Aloe Vera. Aloe contains a group of sugars that will work wonders for some people, but Ambrotose contain all eight essential sugars.

A good book to read is "Sugars That Heal", you can buy it on Amazon no problem!

Hope this helps, mate.

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This thread makes for very interesting reading.

I was able to buy some Magnesium Oxide very cheaply from Holland and Barrett. Do you think that if I took two tablets and also a teaspoon of coarse unrefined sea salt (stirred into water) every day, would that meet an average person's magnesium needs? Please tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

On more question if you'd be so kind to answer - should I be concerned about drinking this amount of salt water so often, and where does it begin to have detrimental effects (I was always taught that salt is bad for you but then again I know next to nothing about nutrition).

Thanks.

[Gareth83]

Magnesium Oxide - Cheap for a reason, it's crap

Magnesium Citrate is what you want, google it in the US and get it shipped over. A teaspoon a day is what you need

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Ah thanks Gareth I should have known better. And here's a question for Caveman - how do you cope with having to drink salt water every day, it would make most people want to retch

[Wotan]

He does retch. Ha ha ha!!!

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We should take everything he says with a pinch of salt