Leptospirosis, a blessing in disguise?

[Ripped Barbarian]

I contracted leptospirosis after swimming in freshwater pond that rats had been in, leptospirosis is fairly nasty but in 10% of people it can turn very nasty (weils disease), 10% of these people die, 50% if they do not recieve treatment.

I knew i had the disease 10 days after exposure, needed no diagnosis from the doc, it was textbook lepto.

First couple of days:
-Severe fatigue, muscle aches (weak as kitten)
-Severe headache/eye ache.
-Joints 'arthritic'
-Fever.

Second phase (after about 5 days)
-Painful kidneys/kidney failure.
-Rash on neck.

I could have gotten antibiotics and done it that method but decided i would rather use my own defenses and keep my intestinal flora and avoid the risk of developing complications due to this (you can end up even more ill if you knock out natural defenses)

So i used my own techniques, herbs and nutrients to fight it, specifically designed to take out the spirochetes:
-Siberian ginseng and ginger chewed in the morning.
-5g vit C/bioflavanoid mix and 3g slow release vit C zinc daily.
-3-4 cloves garlic raw.
-Electrolyte replenishment, avoid potassium.
-Smilax
-Cat's claw, cinnamon and pau d'arco tea.
-Lots of Pepper, oregano and other antibacterial boosting herbs added to food.
-Organic veg stews, easy to digest food etc my appetite has not dropped so i kept eating healthily but much reduced protein intake due to kidney damage.

After 2 days of my regime i felt a million times better, overall only took 1 day off work and that was due to lack of sleep as i felt euphoric on sat night.
I felt so good infact i felt better than before i got ill and here is my theory:
I got lyme disease a few years ago and after getting over it never felt the same again, chronic infection...
Now i was taking a formula to specifically target spirochetes, lyme also happens to be a spirochete infection.
I believe the boosted immune response against this type of infection combined with the herbal treatment not only dealt with the leptospirosis swiftly but knocked out or at least reduced the lyme infection.

I still feel fantastic, better than i have done for years and am going to continue the treatment, in a slightly less severe protocol.

Taking a dip with the rats might not have been so bad after all!

[HBK]

As long as you're okay with it then congratulations on catching it , oh and then for getting over it

p.s. love the name Cats claw.

[Gareth83]

how did you diagnose that?

what would you recommend to get rid of the long term effects of glandular fever?

I've ordered some equipment to make colloidial silver as Wotan suggested. Hope that helps

[Ripped Barbarian]

Lysine, ginger, pau d'arco, cat's claw.

Liquorice is great but you have to weigh up the test lowering effects, imo beating an illness is worth a few weeks of lowered testosterone, which contradicts the immune system anyway!

[simon m]

RC

Any chance of finding the cure for the common cold, then you'd be rich and you could concentrate on training and become the next Mr O!

[Dino_V]

Fair play, Ripped Caveman. Mainly for sticking to your no anti-b's principal. Im sure most in your position would of been running to the docs.

How did you come up with your "cure"? Do you have books on natural therapies, or did you research it on the net?

[Ian Coe]

I assume you reached phase 2? Did it reach painful kidneys stage?


How do you know its out of your system? Or is it a case of when you're not feeling like death its most likely on its way out?


I'm playing devils advocate


ps- I would also be running to the docs

[Ripped Barbarian]

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I assume you reached phase 2? Did it reach painful kidneys stage?


How do you know its out of your system? Or is it a case of when you're not feeling like death its most likely on its way out?

Yes it reached the second phase.

I had 2 and a bit days of severe fever first, got a little bit better then got kidney pain, on the thursday i had polyuria (about 5 litres clear liquid) then almost complete anuria with dark piss that smelt of tinned hot dogs on the friday, thankfully no blood that i could detect.
I was spared the liver complications/jaundice so it would never be classed as weils disease.

Often spirochetes are hard to completely remove from your system (can take months or years due to their triple forms and evasion techniques) but i've certainly beaten the infection right down as i feel a million times better and my kidneys are recovering (still feel a little 'raw')
With continuation of my treatment the infection should hopefully be fully resolved by the end of june.

[Ian Coe]

Thats very interesting

I came down with ME 13 ish years ago, which is basically a chronic infection.

I wonder what would happen (assuming it isn't out of my system by now) if I did the same protocal as you.

[Ripped Barbarian]

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Thats very interesting

I came down with ME 13 ish years ago, which is basically a chronic infection.

I wonder what would happen (assuming it isn't out of my system by now) if I did the same protocal as you.

I see no reason not to try it, certainly healthier than taking a course of antibiotics.

The basic elements of it can be cheap herbs as well, ginger is strongly anti viral whilst garlic is strongly antibacterial (and there is some overlap from both) these two alone form a very wide band antibiotic (and antisocial due to garlic) combined with some immune stimulating herbs or other antibiotic herbs and nutrients to boost your health you have a very powerful tool to rid yourself of most chronic infections (wether it's viral, bacterial or parasites)

There are 3 elements to beating a chronic infection: Antibiotic phytochemicals, boosting immune function and time, you need all 3.
They are chronic because they have moved away from the bloodstream into tissues, the immune system has dropped to a lower level forming an equilibrium (not that you feel fine with it but you function), spirochetes can change form to evade the immune system and take a long time to divide and multiply, therefore you need a long treatment to completely beat an infection.