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Thread: HGH and recovering from muscle injuries (using L-Glutamine)

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    shame there's no L-Glut left on MP site!
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    NeilD - mate try contacting MP direct mate contact us

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    Originally Posted by Wotan View Post
    Local Hgh injections would not cure your problem.

    What might help (I speak from experience) is to raise your own levels of Hgh. There are various reasons for this - all covered in past threads.

    Basically, if you want to try this route, then:-

    1. Go and buy yourself some fizzy vitamin C tablets from a supermarket or local chemist. Make sure the the tablets do not contain sugar or any variant of it.

    2. Then buy some l-glutamine from MP.

    3. Then, every morning, mix a heaped teaspoon of the glutamine with the fizzing tablet. When the fizzing stops drink the lot down and do not eat for at least half an hour.

    4. Make sure you use at least half a pint of water for the tablet. If necessary use two tablets to improve the taste.

    5. Keep this up for a couple of weeks at least.

    The only side effects from this are all beneficial. You will lose some body-fat for instance. You will feel able to exercise slightly harder possibly. Your skin tone will improve somewhat etc. The effects of raising your own Hgh levels are nothing like injecting Hgh at all.
    Would everyone benefit from doing this? I think HGH is a major benefit to following a carbohydrate restricted diet, so I'm quite interested.
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    Interesting Wotan!
    Can you in layman's terms (pretty-please ) explain how this works?
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    Originally Posted by Wotan View Post
    None of the above except glutamine. Taking therapeutic doses of amino acids only works when they are taken in isolation. This therefore precludes mixing them together (as I pointed out in previous posts if this were not the case then simply drinking a glass of milk would have the same effect - but obviously it doesn't).

    In my experience use just one a/a at atime. And for your purposes glutamine is the best.

    Colostrum would also help to a slight degree - but not much compared to the pulse of Hgh you would release from the glutamine ingestion. Colostrum is of course a protein mixture and so should be taken seperately from your a/a drink.

    You do not need the fizzy tablet - or any vitamin C for that matter.

    Its just that:-

    a) a/a's seem to work better when taken with a carbonated drink (even sparkling mineral water). I can't prove this but it does seem to be the case (in my experience anyway).
    b) vitamin C helps with various inflammatory conditions.
    c) some people (me included) think that glutamine has a slightly unpleasant, lingering aftertaste. Other people say it tastes almost sweet like a mild sort of sherbet dip. Either way the fizzy flavoured tablet masks the taste.

    What you do need is the water. Half-a-pint will make the stomach empty - just. Less than that means it will sit there for some time before anything happens. Drink more if you can.
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    Interesting Wotan!
    Can you in layman's terms (pretty-please ) explain how this works?
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    Yep, I noticed when I took L Glutamine AKG my elbow improved, became smooth and less tender on triceps extensions.
    When I stopped it return, what a burk Why did I stop must get some more DOH!
    Just got me order too, AAKG, Dextrose, Gaurana, Gluca a stuff!
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    Wotan - can you shed any light pretty-please ?
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    Just ordered some L Glutamine.
    Be nice to know the science behind it.
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    Sorry folks, I missed these posts!!

    Anyway, not to worry - full service has now been resumed.

    Age?

    Quite frankly anyone who leads a relatively normal life and is under 21 needn't bother with this protocol. You are releasing giga-amounts of Hgh anyway!

    Over 21 and under 25? This is where the decline begins. If you are exercising heavily, injury prone or attempting to recuperate. Or if you eat a particularly crap diet (loads of simple sugars for instance). Or if you are on shiftwork, drugs, etc then this could easily be of benefit.

    Over 25? Seriously consider this protocol.

    Over 35? Why are you not doing this?

    Pointers.

    1. Insulin and Hgh are antagonistic (roughly speaking). So release your Hgh when there is none around! The best way to do this is after sleep but before any food.

    2. Hgh doesn't actually do the work. It simply acts as a trigger for the liver to release IGF's 1 through to 6. IGF actually stands for Insulin-like Growth Factor; hence the antagonism with insulin itself.

    3. Hgh has a life expectancy in the bloodstream of around twenty minutes or so. Its virtually impossible to measure - so IGF1 gets measured instead and the two correlated together (no IGF1; no Hgh for instance).

    4. Once the IGF's are released it is safe to eat, but best leave it for a bit longer maybe to get the full effect. I personally leave it for an hour. If you are primarily interested in weight-loss (and you shouldn't be, its fat loss you're really after of course) then this is the perfect time for that intense cardio, aerobic, weight work.

    5. There are various amino acids that will work, including arginine and its metabolite ornithine. I have tried virtually all releasers but glutamine is the least problematic. By a long chalk! Use the others if you wish, but eventually do yourself a favour and instead of re-ordering the same stuff use glutamine instead.

    6. Glutamine is a fuel as well. The gut, in particular, uses it preferentially over glucose. It has been used with some success in easing the symptoms of IBS etc.

    7. Colostrum doesn't contain Hgh (how can it? Hgh is HUMAN gh!) but it does contain the IGF factors, and these are sufficiently alike in most mammals to work in humans. Colostum also contains other little goodies like lacto-ferrin etc. This is why it works!

    8. The body does not stop producing Hgh as we age. What does happen however is that its release becomes impeded. Taking a releaser (also known as a secretogue - which is a pretty horrible word in my view) causes the body to release a surge or "pulse" of it. This is how it occurs naturally anyway, the biggest pulse taking place shortly after starting sleep.

    9. This why those of us on shift work (my big problem) die earlier; our bodies do get the necessary hormonal impetus to repair themselves as they should. The same goes for internet addicts that stay up half the night, druggies, alcoholics, sugar-eaters etc.

    10. Hgh also has the property of partioning calories in favour of muscle tissue growth rather than adipose (fat) tissue. This is why teenagers (with massively high levels of Hgh) can eat like horse and still stay skinny. Putting it laymans terms Hgh burns fat and tones your muscles.

    11. Hgh will also alter your moods somewhat. They become "brighter", things become easier to do, you will spring out bed a bit easier etc.

    12. Hgh will also cause your internal organs to grow. There are twice the receptors on your internal organs as there are in your muscles. Body-builders that inject Hgh are generally spotted by having a huge gut ("Hgh bloat"). To avoid this simply cycle the glutamine. Try three weeks on and then one week off. Alter to suit.

    13. Because Hgh makes your other glands grow you will find your other hormone secretions also rising. Testosterone goes up by about 5% to 10% for instance. It also stimualtes your immune system massively (because it reverses the shrinkage of your thymus gland that occurs over time and so facilitates the rise in killer T cells, for instance).

    14. The whole Hgh release proccess is helped along by a high(ish) protein diet that contains low GI carbs and one rich in vits and mins.

    Phew!!

    Any more questions folks?


    PS. No bitching about typos etc. Its late!!! Some of the info here is given in rough and ready terms - no quoting pubmed etc at me. If you want more technical stuff dont be lazy - use the search function! xxx
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    Originally Posted by Wotan View Post
    Local Hgh injections would not cure your problem.

    What might help (I speak from experience) is to raise your own levels of Hgh. There are various reasons for this - all covered in past threads.

    Basically, if you want to try this route, then:-

    1. Go and buy yourself some fizzy vitamin C tablets from a supermarket or local chemist. Make sure the the tablets do not contain sugar or any variant of it.

    2. Then buy some l-glutamine from MP.

    3. Then, every morning, mix a heaped teaspoon of the glutamine with the fizzing tablet. When the fizzing stops drink the lot down and do not eat for at least half an hour.

    4. Make sure you use at least half a pint of water for the tablet. If necessary use two tablets to improve the taste.

    5. Keep this up for a couple of weeks at least.

    The only side effects from this are all beneficial. You will lose some body-fat for instance. You will feel able to exercise slightly harder possibly. Your skin tone will improve somewhat etc. The effects of raising your own Hgh levels are nothing like injecting Hgh at all.
    Few questions.... is the vitimin c optional to help the taste or essential?

    you say a heaped teaspoon in the morning... how much does this weigh roughly?

    plus mp advices 5g 3 times a day... any reason u say only in the morning?

    thanks
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