HGH and recovering from muscle injuries (using L-Glutamine)

[LionHair]

Many thanks Wotan !

[Wotan]

Stephens-On

Glutamine's uses are not confined to Hgh release. The dosing strategy that MP suggest is a catch-all one for most situations. Its not much good for Hgh release, this is not a criticism - simply a fact. Hgh is a pretty specific task and so requires a pretty specific tool.

Vitamin C is optional, but the carbonation appears to help (I am guessing that you have not read this thread from the start). It can't do any harm so why not? Vitamin C, of itself plays no part in Hgh release to my knowledge.

This teaspoon you talk about - how big is it?

And how much of a heap are you talking about?

And does it really matter? (The answer to the last one is "no" incidentally, ha ha ha)!!!

[stephens_0n]

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Stephens-On

Glutamine's uses are not confined to Hgh release. The dosing strategy that MP suggest is a catch-all one for most situations. Its not much good for Hgh release, this is not a criticism - simply a fact. Hgh is a pretty specific task and so requires a pretty specific tool.

Vitamin C is optional, but the carbonation appears to help (I am guessing that you have not read this thread from the start). It can't do any harm so why not? Vitamin C, of itself plays no part in Hgh release to my knowledge.

This teaspoon you talk about - how big is it?

And how much of a heap are you talking about?

And does it really matter? (The answer to the last one is "no" incidentally, ha ha ha)!!!

Thanks for the replies... a did read it all but just asked them few questions to get a better picture, thanks.

[Wotan]

One question no-one has asked (WAKE-UP at the back please!!).

What is the difference between Hgh injections and endogenous release. And why does Wotan favour one over the other?

Answer (s).

1. You have to inject it. It breaks down when taken orally (its a protein dummy, geddit!)

2. Even outside the stomach it is horrendously physically fragile and very temperature sensitive. So it requires constant refrigeration and even dropping/shaking the phial breaks the substance down - seriously!

3. It is expensive - at last count (for bona-fide material from European sources) it runs out at about £70 upwards per shot.

4. It is also prescription only. Stallone got busted in Australia for having it.

5. It is also not a good idea to deliberately inject things into yourself if you do not really have to. Injections are messy, time consuming and can be painful.

6. And dangerous.

7. You cannot be sure about the quality of manufactured Hgh. Most of it on the open market now comes from China (even if the label says otherwise). The quality control issues in that country are, er, severe to say the least. Never forget you are injecting this stuff. Best leave it alone.

8. Even the European stuff causes allergic reactions in a significant proportion of users. Do you really want to sensitise yourself to one of your major hormones? Nope, didn't think so.

9. Natural Hgh release is not just a simple "a leads to b" scenario. It involve various negative feedback loops. Putting it simply there are (as already mentioned) at least six known IGF factors and a further four binding proteins that form an entire symphony of responses. Injecting just one, IGF1 (as some people have tried to do to get around the Hgh fragility issues and to bypass the IGF1-6 response levels [ie, up the IGF dose beyond a normal response]) misses the entire point of what Hgh does. It triggers an entire, whole body response - not just one bit.

So for cheapness, ease of use, legality's sake, safety and best overall performance use your own Hgh and not an outside source.

[LionHair]

sorry Wotan what did you say I was napping..... LOL !






(Good info again.......................as always!)

[Wotan]

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Thanks for the replies... a did read it all but just asked them few questions to get a better picture, thanks.

I have just measured one of "my" heaped teaspoons. Nine grams! The research papers noted that as little as two grams will release Hgh, but possibly not in everyone and not under all circumstances. So I use lots in one go just to be sure.

Glutamine is non-toxic. The body makes it itself and it forms a large part of most other meat/dairy protein sources. So there is no problem with it at all.

[Wotan]

In all seriousness folks:-

LH, try it. Do not be surprised at a rise in your libido. This seems to affect women more than men. You will also notice a rise in your energy levels and the clarity of your skin etc.

KingCobra, again have a go mate. Let us know how you get on. I find personal experiences interesting so do not be shy, eh.

Stephen, your profile says you are 18. Maybe this isnt going to be for you just yet. But at least you know for the future eh!

I start taking it to recover from a serious work-related injury. After six months of cycling it I was all but back to normal. What I hadnt reckoned on was the response from other people (male and female). These range from (and I quote verbatim):-

"**** me! You on steroids"?

"Christ, you've lost a bit of weight; bloody tons actually!!" [My weight stayed the same actually].

"You look like you've just come back from holiday, where you been - a health farm"

"How come your skin is so smooth?"

"God you are the best lover I've ever had - how can you keep it up for 48 hours at a time?"





Alright, I made that last one up - but you get the general idea!!

Good luck everyone if you decide to try this!!

[Duncan]

Thanks for the further info, Wotan. Assuming a good diet with low levels of insulin, would there be any advantage to someone aged 21-25 doing this or is it a case of saying 'you already produce as much HGH as you need'? Can this method raise HGH beyond the levels we would typically expect to see in someone in this age group or would it be more like taking a load of glutamine and seeing no particular benefit?

[Wotan]

Moot point Duncan.

You are probably wasting your time. I say this because glutamine is a releaser - it doesn't make you make more as it were.

On the other hand there are various things you can do to increase your Hgh output (pre-release). These include high intensity exercise (an hour on the treadmill doesn't count, an uphill sprint that leaves you gasping, does).

Uncomfortably hot sauna's also work apparantly.

Going hungry occasionally also works.

As in all cases the first condition must be a good diet.

In your case the exercise thing is probably your best bet. Same goes for Stephen I'd say.

[Duncan]

Thankyou Wotan, your insights are always appreciated. From what you've said, it sounds like I'm already following the right kind of lifestyle for optimum GH release, which is comforting to know! This is something I will be interested to explore in a few year's time, though.